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My sister

October 28 2004 at 10:24 PM
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I acidentally walked in on my sister showering one day. I was going for a shower thinking that she was not in there so i was naked. When I saw her, I started to leave, but she said I could shower with her. I did, thinking I would get it over with, because we have a big shower stall. While we were showering, we got a little excited and we ended up fondeling eachother. Is this alright? I mean I never felt much like a lesbian before, and definattly not with my sis, but now when I see her I get a little hot.

I really need help, what should I do? Should I try to do it again? or just try to forget about it?

 
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Re: My sister

October 28 2004, 11:16 PM 

Meghan,

What you did is pretty common for brothers and sisters or brothers and brothers or sisters and sisters to do. As long as it went no further than casual touching - it is nothing to worry about about. I doubt very much you are lesbian or bisexual because of the feelings you are having. They are very natural.

I don't suggest you try it again. If you have feelings about other girls - you should pursue girls who are you age and not your sister.

Susan

 
 
Paul
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My Sister

October 29 2004, 7:11 AM 

I think that the ages of the two sisters should come into play. If they are young, then it would be okay, as all younger people tend to do this. If they are in their 30's then it may be considered inappropriate.

 
 
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Re: My sister

October 29 2004, 9:09 AM 

Meghan, I doubt that you are a lesbian, maybe bisexual, because you probably still like guys. What you and your sister did was not that bad, touching and fondling eachother. Females shower together all the time and maybe drawn to eachother due to their maternal instincts. This is why you would never hear of straight guys fondling eachother in the locker room.

It's probably best though that you and your sister don't keep "playing" with eachother. Even though it may feel good and exciting at the time, trust me, it is not good in the long run and may cause psychological problems in the future. On the other hand, it's good that you and your sister are close, but I would recommend not getting too close with her.

Clay.

 
 
Gregorio
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Clay

October 29 2004, 10:52 AM 

Hey Clay...where ya been?
Gregorio

 
 
Meghan
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Details

October 29 2004, 8:22 PM 

I am 16 and she if 15 for thoes of you who were wondering. Yes I do still like guys, but I do see a girl every now and then that looks attractive to me. The problem is that my sister is one of these. I don't know why, but she is. Oh and we did it again, i couldnt resist once I was there.

 
 
salamander
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Re: Details

October 30 2004, 1:39 AM 

You know, as much as i would love to watch all that happening i know i'd be devastated if my girl did that. Perhaps it's a girl thing, always stepping near the line of acceptability but never really crossing until some are sucked into it and cross. How you thought about having a sexual relationship with her? Do all girls get turned on when another girl is touching their breast? Why do girls even want to touch another girl's breast anyway?

 
 
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October 30 2004, 10:49 AM 

I suppose it must be physchological. I mean i am a man and i would never ever think of or want to do that with someone else male. But as said earlier by someone else females are different and experiance thinks in a different way. You may be bisexual. the is another boy in my year who i think is bisexual because once he came onto me. I just casually dismissed him and sort of walked away and made nothing of it.

 
 
Clay
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Re: Details

October 30 2004, 11:08 AM 

It's in their nature to touch eachother salamander (nurture). Nothing we can do about it, except maybe sit back and enjoy. lol.

We men on the other hand wouldn't think of doing that, unless we were gay.

 
 

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Re: Details

October 30 2004, 2:54 PM 

The homophobia is this thread is amazing. When we are children boy and girls are just as likely to be interested in each other as anyone else --but then the silly rhetoric about boys being interested in boys are gay/sissy/fag/ effeminate and worse that boys and men push down their feelings until they disappear.

 
 
Ioudas
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Re: Details

October 30 2004, 4:17 PM 

I think the girl attraction to girl is the cause of a couple of things.

Firt and foremost I think it is natural. I read somewhere that most people in the world are not "just straight" or "just gay". That it is a sliding scale, and most people land somewhere between the too opposites.

I know that while I myself do not find anything attractive about men in general. But imagining sex acts with men can get me turned on.

So why does it seem more prevalent with women than men? Well part of it is as Susan said. Occidental standards see it as against masculinity to be attracted to other men. Any feelings we have towards that end are socialized out of us(men) since we take our first steps into the world. This does not happen with girls.

Secondly women are held up by our society as sexual, as sensual, as beautiful. Women for the most part define "sexy" for our culture. It is no wonder that the women of our culture tend to agree.

Personally I do not think that what Meghan and her sister are doing is morally wrong. I think most of the inhibitions we have about sexual relations with family come from issues brought up by children of insestual liasons, and the power issues brought about by people of different ages having sexual relationships(such as an uncle and neice. or Mother and son or something). But the actual acts themsevles have no moral rating beyond that of regular sex.

However this does come with some caveats. Because of the standard set by society such a relationship can cause harm(even though it may not be harmful in its own). Such as if anyone in Meghans family found out, there could be serious repercussions, and a great many people could end up very hurt over the ordeal. Something else that could happen is that guilt could creep up on either of the two girls, and turn into a problem, that could forever hurt the relationship between the girls. And possibly hurt the relationships the girls have with other people in the future.

So to sum up. I don't think what the girls are doing is wrong exactly. But I do think it is very risky behavior, and I think they are taking a lot of chances with their lives that could turn out disasterous, and far more costly than then it was worth.

 
 
Clay
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Re: Details

October 30 2004, 9:37 PM 

I agree with loudas.

 
 
Anonymous
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Re: Details

October 31 2004, 3:17 AM 

You know people keep saying that as teenagers it's considered normal to want to experiment with other people of the same sex but i find that hard to accept. I've never done that and as far as i know most of my friend have never tried it either. So who are these people who experiment and why are they always made out to be in the majority.
Sexuality is changing, obviously the idea of how a Man and of a Woman should be is different from what we really are and if that is the case then oneday we would break free from the bounds that tie us down and live in a world where it's okay to have a weekend drink with your best bud, give him a good one two and go back home to your wife and that is only if you really want to. Sure it's still done low key, everybody is doing it but noone wants to talk about it, like oral sex. Everyone does it but it's still against the law. If it was good enough for Alexander the Great get it on with his best bud then i'm sure it's good enough for me.
Anyway there are most shittier things going on in this world to be worried with small and petty problems like homophobias. If my gf likes another girl, i'd have to learn to love it or leave her. Simple.

 
 

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Re: Details

October 31 2004, 11:19 AM 

The reason you may not know about experimenting with "gay sex" is that most people don't talk about it - some ever - to anyone. Especially guys are taught so intensively that having gay feelings is so wrong that they never speak of it to anyone.

When you log in here you see only the questions people want posted for the public to see. You never see the questions with please not to post and to please email me the answer. The majority of these questions deal with absolutely normal sexual feelings that someone has been taught are immoral or dangerous or just wrong - and they may be very common experiences with no negative repercussions - except from the internalized feelings perpetrated on them by others.

Susan

 
 
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Re: Details

November 1 2004, 2:18 AM 

Wow! Are there really that many people that have experimented? It's funny, when we grow up everything seems so straight forward but yet it's far from the truth. If what is being practised behind closed doors isn't what we really are then there would come a time where things would just start to fall apart.

 
 

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Re: Details

November 1 2004, 2:24 AM 

Nothing has fallen apart yet. Homosexuality has been practiced for all of time and yet off and on we have considered it immoral. Marriage is a relatively new institution and we have survived with it, without it, and with divorce rates of over 50%. Life is maleable - meaning it changes with the times. It wil keep changing and long as we keep changing.

Susan

 
 
Johny5
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Re: Details

November 1 2004, 6:53 AM 

It's not homophobia. I am not offended by lesbianism. It's INCEST.

 
 

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Re: Details

November 1 2004, 7:38 AM 

So far what Meghan and her sister have engaged in (that she has reported here) is fondling.

So by most definitions this is not considered incest. Incest requires sexual intercourse, or an older relative having sex with a younger relative - not two children of nearly the same age (which legally at 15 and 16 these two are.)

In all cases I could find in the US - incest is a statutory crime - meaning only people over the age of 16 can commit incest.

I could not find any law that would include lesbian incestual activity as unlawful - except under cunnilingus/ oral sex laws. And the same for homosexual incest except under sodomy. anal sex laws. Incest under law appears to be reserved for people of the opposite sex.


Here's a few definitions:
Survivors of Incest Annonymous http://www.siawso.org/

We define incest very broadly as a sexual experience by a family member or by an extended family member that damaged the child. "Extended family" may include an aunt, uncle, in-law, step-parent, cousin, friend of the family, teacher, coach, another child, clergy or anyone that you were led to trust. We believe we were affected by the abuse whether it occurred once or many times since the damage is incurred immediately.


http://www.uslegalforms.com/lawdigest/legal-definitions.php/US/US-INCEST.htm
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Incest Law and Legal Definition
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Laws vary by state, but generally, a person commits incest if he marries or engages in sexual intercourse with a person he knows to be, either legitimately or illegitimately:
(1) His ancestor or descendant by blood or adoption; or

(2) His brother or sister of the whole or half-blood or by adoption; or

(3) His stepchild or stepparent, while the marriage creating the relationship exists; or

(4) His aunt, uncle, nephew or niece of the whole or half-blood.

In some states incest also includes copulation or cohabitation between first cousins, but the majority of jurisdictions permit marriage between such cousins. Incest is a crime in all states, even if consensual by both parties. However, it is often related to sexual abuse since usually the younger person is a victim of the predatory sexual activities of an older relative.


http://www.fact-index.com/i/in/incest_taboo.html
Incest is sexual intercourse between individuals related in certain prohibited degrees of kinship. In every society there are rules prohibiting incestuous unions, both as to sexual intercourse and recognized marriage. The two prohibitions do not necessarily coincide.


A Bible Historian - http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/opinion/8132558.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp&1c

The status of women and children in biblical times was little above that of chattel. Sexual behavior was prohibited only when it interfered with another male's property rights or honor. "Adultery" was defined as sleeping with another's wife, but sexual relations between married men and prostitutes were not prohibited. Sleeping with a stepmother or daughter-in-law was punishable by death, but there was no explicit prohibition against a father having sex with an unmarried daughter. "Rape" of an unmarried woman was defined not according to whether the woman consented but whether her father gave permission.

 
 

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Re: Details

November 1 2004, 7:47 AM 

Meghan,

Being sexually attracted to your sister is pretty ordinary. We can have sexual attraction to all kinds of people we might never actually have sex with or have a relationship with or even meet. I have had a sexual attraction to Paul McCartney every since I was about 12 years old - but will I ever get the chance to act on it- damn it - no. I had a sexual attraction to a personI worked with - and had a difficult time everytime we were together not imagining having sex with him - but did I ever act on it - no. But you have had the chance to act on yours.

I think you and your sister need to have a conversation with your clothes on about what is happening. You need to seriously discuss how comfortable she is with what is happening. Then I think you two need to make an agreement as to what is ok and not OK for you two to do as sisters. And then you both need to work hard to stay within that agreement whatever that agreement is.

You have no control over your sexual attractions - but you do have control over your sexual behavior.

Susan

 
 
Anonymous
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Re: Details

November 1 2004, 10:20 AM 

I still have the biggest crush on Paul Mccartney, omg.

I am so infatuated with the beatles, you don't even know. I am only 16 and a huge beatles fan. crazy huh?

 
 

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Re: Details

November 1 2004, 10:54 AM 

Doesn't seem the least bit crazy to me.

 
 
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