Hi, my name is Jon and im 13 and my sister name is Jennifer and she is 16.
I was watching tv today with my sister and a commercial came on, a underwear commercial, I felt weird and my privates got hard it was sticking up. I told my sister and she looked and said I had a boner. I asked her what was I suppose to do, she said follow her, and we went into the bathroom. She told me to take off my pants, when I did she started touching it and then started liking and putting it in her mouth. She then took off her pants and told me to start touching her.Then I felt really tired and some gooey stuff came out of my private. She told me not to tell mom or dad.
It felt really good, should we do it again? my sister said it is normal
What was the stuff that came out of my privates?
Is it called a boner when my privates get long and hard?
I'm not sure I really believe you. I doubt you would have found this site if you really were that ignorant about sex - but just in case you are being honest......
When your penis gets hard from seeing or thinking about sex that is called an erection. The blood flows into your penis and causes it to get hard. It is a very ordinary and natural thing to happen and you don't need to do anything about it - it will go away on its own. Some people call erections boners.
Your sister should absolutely not be sucking, licking, touching your penis. And you should absolutely not be touching her. If you want to touch yourself - go do it in private.
What came out of your penis is ejaculatory fluid or ejaculation or cum. It is a normal response to being sexually excited. Inside it is sperm - which is what makes women pregnant.
Your sister did not want you to tell your parents because she knows it is wrong. Your sister is 16 and what you said she did is illegal. It is illegal for anyone over 16 to have sex with a person under 16.
From now on if you get a "boner" go to your room and enjoy the feeling it gives you in private.
Susan
Clay (no login)
Re: What happend
November 21 2004, 9:32 AM
Damn Jon, that is some sister you have there. You two must have a really close relationship (maybe a bit too close). Assuming your story is true, then my guess would be that she was curious about giving blowjobs and being your sex-ed teacher at the same time. That was your first ejaculation and that gooey stuff was semen. I don't think you and her should do this again, but it's up to you two. Just be sure you don't have unprotected sex with her or she could end up pregnant.
Clay
Curious (no login)
Re: What happend
November 21 2004, 10:51 AM
I found this website on accident, I was on google and I was trying to find if what happend was normal and then you site came up. So I decided to ask a question. I may not know alot about sex and things like it but im very smart with computers. I think I sounded ignorant because it was my first time getting a "boner" and I never really thought about sex and things like that before.
My sister was touching me again today, I should tell my parents right? I just didn't know if this was normal.
Yes, tell your parents. No, it is not normal for sisters to touch their brothers. Sometimes it does happen - but it is not normal and it is not ok. Your sister needs to stop immediately. She knows it is wrong or she would not have told you not to tell your parents.
This is also called sexual abuse. An older person convinces a younger person that what they are doing is OK. The younger person agrees because they love/respect/admire the older person. The younger person wants to believe that the older person would never deliberately hurt them so they do it.
Jon, tell your parents today. This needs to stop now. If your sister gets into trouble it is not your fault. She could get into much bigger trouble if she keeps doing it.
Susan
Clay (no login)
Re: What happend
November 21 2004, 1:44 PM
Jon, you could tell your parents that your older sister was giving you blowjobs and jerking you off, if you want to. Like Susan said it is considered sexual abuse if an older person convinces a younger person to have a sexual relationship.
When I was about your sister's age, I used to cuddle with my younger sister too. We never had sex, though I did lick her pussy a couple times (and enjoyed it). I never told my parents and neither did she. I don't think that you and your sister should continue with the sex acts, because this could make your relationship with her very complicated.
You guys are still young, enjoy your youth, because once you grow older, you'll have plenty of time for sex with other people.
Clay
Clay..I edited this as I didn't want some of your advice posted here ebcause it is simply dead wrong. Susan
This message has been edited by Xuxan on Nov 21, 2004 4:01 PM
> When I was about your sister's age, I used to cuddle with
> my younger sister too. We never had sex, though I did lick
> her pussy a couple times (and enjoyed it). I never told my
> parents and neither did she
Oh my gawd.....
IMO, having oral sex is having sex!
...it's called "oral sex," it even has "sex" in its name! it's sex!
shudders
Is no one horrified at incest anymore?
Ack.... I am totally creeped out, sorry.
Nick
Clay (no login)
Re: Is no one horrified at the incest?
November 23 2004, 10:06 AM
Nick, you wanted me to tell you about my "experiences." I figured you (and others) would be a little shocked when you read about them, that's why I was hesitant to talk about it in the first place.
I know now that what I did with my sister was wrong, but at the same time it sure was exciting to do something naughty and not get caught. One time my dad was inside my room on the computer, playing online checkers I think, and I snuck into my sister's room, while she was resting there and we went at it for about 15 min. Yeah, I know I'm pretty fucked-up, but hey that's life.
It is time for you to start taking yourself seriously. You offer advice to people to do what you have done - when what you have done and are doing is not very healthy.
You are constantly running away from your real feelings. You are constantly covering up what you really need to deal with with other stuff.
You need counseling. I know you don't think you do and don't want to go to counseling - and you really really need it.
I am not sure you are gay or bisexual. But it is a possibility. These are some of the reasons:
When two young teenage siblings get involved sexually it is usually just once or twice out of curiosity or it is sexual abuse by one sibling over the other. In your case it is neither of that I think.
My guess is that you started to have gay feelings when you were a teenager - and they scared you. So you sought out the only female you knew you could safely have sex with - to prove you were straight. You still didn't feel straight - so you kept going back to your sister to validate that you were straight. You kept having more kinds of sex - because just kissing didn't make you straight - maybe oral sex would.
So because your sexual feelings are so strong and your committment to the idea of heterosexuality is so strong you got into anal masturbation. Now lots of straight guys are into anal masturbate - but then they don't try to convince every one they meet online that anal masturbation is better than more typical masturbation.
You say some pretty horrible things to women here who have made the decision to be sexual - to be straight. And you have condemned women pretty hatefully that have been in marriages with men who have gay feelings. I think both theses attitudes come from your anxiety about women and having relationships with them.
I realize your religion supports your idea that you should marry a virgin. But I think you are hiding behind this too. You are at this point an old virgin. It is going to get harder and harder for you to find a virgin woman to marry. So one of two things will happen (unless you get counseling) - 1. Either you will never marry because there was no appropriate virgin - and you a a religious man - and so you can keep on anally masturbating forever and not confront your lack of or inadequate (to you) straight feelings OR 2. You will find another older virgin who doesn't have much of a sex drive so sex will not be that important to her, and she will be inexperienced and won't have any idea (you hope) of what to expect in a heterosexual marriage.
You tell us your sister joined a cult. It seems from what you have said that she doesn't interact with your family anymore. It is my guess is that she is running away from you and from her parents who did not protect her from you. Having sex between siblings ( and yes as Nick said - oral sex IS sex) is hard enough to live with and face up to in an ordinary family - but in a religous family like yours I can't imagine the shame she must feel. I know that even when being abused (and yes Clay, I think what you did to your sister was abuse as you were the older one - it may not have begun as abuse, but it became abuse) and she feels partly responsibility for letting it continue on and on. In your family she was without control and in a cult she is without control. Living without control she is blameless for her past - and more than likely her present. She needs counseling as badly, if not more so than you do. And I can say this without ever having said one word to her.
If you want a future with healthy sexual feelings - you are going to have to get counseling to learn to understand your past and to move forward in a different way.
You might be gay, you might be bisexual, you might even be heterosexual. Lots of young guys go through periods of having gay or bisexual feelings and end up completely straight. You took a very crooked path in your teens to try to make yourself what you thought was normal and ended up very warped. It is time for you to grow up and take responsibility for what you have done and put it in the past and then face the future head on. If you don't you will never really be happy- and of that I am sure.
Susan
Clay (no login)
My Past
November 23 2004, 5:53 PM
Susan, I appreciate the time and effort that you took out of your busy day to write that last response to me. It was very well thought out and it made me think hard about my past and future relationships.
Unfortunately, you were a little off on some of the points that you made and I thought that I would clarify some of them.
First of all, when I was a teenager, I was not attracted to guys nor did I have any gay feelings. I was attracted to girls, but I felt sort of intimidated (lack of confidence) in myself to start a relationship. I don't know why my sister and I started an incestual relationship when we were younger, but I know that it wasn't because I wanted to prove that I am straight.
I just really liked the feeling of holding her and being close to her, and I think she liked it too (I was really gentle with her). I made sure never to have (vaginal) sex with her, so that she wouldn't get pregnant. That would have really been bad.
Next, the reason I got into anal-masterbation is simply because it feels so damn good. The best way to masterbate I've found is to work the dildo with one hand and jerk my dick off with the other hand.
You then say that I want to marry a virgin. I don't remember saying that. I've said many times that I'm a virgin, but it doesn't mean that the girl I marry must be a virgin (I won't complain if she is). I just want a decent hindu girl to be my loving wife, someone who I would be proud to have around my arm at functions and gatherings. I do want to have sex with her and have children as well.
You were most correct about my sister. She doesn't want to have much if anything to do with me or my family anymore. She just stays with her cult friends and "the leader" at their place. We are a very religious family and have always been, but I don't think that she feels much shame for what me and her have done. The cult leader makes all the decisions for her. She acts like a mindless robot and he controls her like his slave. I can't help but thinking that I'm partly responsible for that.
Finally, I think that she desperately needs counseling, but on the other hand, I think I can survive quite well without it. I know in my heart that I am straight and normal. Just because I don't have sex, doesn't mean that I'm gay. I'll prove it to myself and to everyone that I am straight someday.
Boy is it ever time somebody told Clay the truth. Get real Clay you is gay and so deep in the closet you can't find your way out. I was there once too and I'll be here waiting for you on the outside when you get out.
> I know in my heart that I am straight and normal.
> Just because I don't have sex, doesn't mean that I'm gay.
> I'll prove it to myself and to everyone that I am
> straight someday.
My God. In what you write, the denial is so strong I can just hear the place deep in your head repeating over and over and over and over and over:
"I'll prove it to myself and to everyone that I am straight someday.
I'll prove it to myself and to everyone that I am straight someday.
I'll prove it to myself and to everyone that I am straight someday.
I'll prove it to myself and to everyone that I am straight someday."
What would that make you do to prove you're straight? How far would you go? That scares me. What Susan wrote rings true.
If you really feel you have to PROVE you're straight, you're not straight.
It's okay, genetic, to be gay. Nothing wrong with it.
Let it go man. It's okay. We support you; let go and be yourself.
Incestual relationships are not normal. Liking to hold your sister and be close to her is actually sort of sweet as most siblings aren't very close - but most siblings would do that with all their clothes on and not get involved in touching inappropriately.Claiming to be gentle with her does not change things. It was still wrong and obviously very damaging to her and to you. In a way it might have been good if she had gotten pregnant - then both of you might have gotten the help and support you needed to be an ordinary brother and sister to each other again.
Nothing is wrong with being into anal masturbation - but you proselytize about it. You discount other people's experiences. And you have said more than once you are just not that into sex.
You want a wife >>> I would be proud to have around my arm at functions and gatherings. I do want to have sex with her and have children as well.<<< Sounds to be like you want a wife to make you look good - and you want kids - so having sex is OK too. No woman I know would get very excited about a man who was first and foremost looking for a wife to look good on his arm.
And as for your sister, >>> I can't help but thinking that I'm partly responsible for that.<<<I think I was pretty clear in saying you are responsible for that - as are your parents for not supervising the two of you well enough - and for not having a relationship with your sister where she had the courage to come forward and tell your parents what was happening.
>>>>I know in my heart that I am straight and normal. Just because I don't have sex, doesn't mean that I'm gay. I'll prove it to myself and to everyone that I am straight someday<<<<< Most people have no need to prove to themself that they are straight. Being straight is a given in our culture - it is understanding and accepting that we are gay or bisexual that is difficult. No, the fact you do not have sex does not mean you are gay, but the fact you are over 21 and have had so little interest in sex indicates that you are working very hard - and successfully I might add - at submerging and denying the sexual feelings you do have.
The more you write here - the more I see how desperately you do need counseling. You need to discover who you are and why you tick and try to figure out what will really make you happy in life - because frankly I don't think you have a clue.
Susan
Anonymous (no login)
Re: Is no one horrified at the incest?
November 24 2004, 7:05 PM
hi my name is joey and i am 19.im gay.yesterday me and m boyfriend were makin out in a mall like all other couples,but we got stared at the most.why do people think
inpropersilible in front of gay waco deuces like myself?
People aren't used to seeing guys who are open about their sexuality like you are. I think it is terrific!!!! Just keep doing what you are comfortable with - and ignore the stares.
Come on guys, I keep telling you that I am not gay, but no one wants to believe me. I like girls not guys. How much clearer can I possibly be? I think the only way for me to really be sure one way or another is to actually have sex with a girl and see how I like it. I think I will like it, based on what I have seen in the pornos.
After that experience I am sure I will able to determine if I am straight, bisexual or gay as some of you would like to believe. I used to take pride in being a virgin, but now it seems like I have made a mistake. Everyone thinks I'm gay.
Clay
Clay.....you continue to not get it. No one thinks you are gay because you are a virgin. People think you are gay because of the things you say and your actions. I'm not positive you are gay - but you do match up perfectly well with the perfect closet case id. Susan
This message has been edited by Xuxan on Nov 24, 2004 8:03 PM
joey (no login)
Re: Is no one horrified at the incest?
November 24 2004, 8:42 PM
hi joey again susn i think ur right f*** every one who cant tolerate it thats there problem.susan how do u now so much about sex and everything around it?are u a hooker?
Joey, I went to school to learn about sexand counseling and I lived through the hippie years of the 70s and early 80s and I have also been blessed to have some really wonderful men in my life. But a hooker - nope - not now - not ever.
> I just want a decent hindu girl to be my loving wife,
> someone who I would be proud to have around my arm at
> functions and gatherings. I do want to have sex with her and
> have children as well.
I'm not trying to be harsh, but when you say you just want a girl to look good around your arm in public and then, in the secondary sentence, for sex/children, you are saying you want a woman in order to meet societal expectations of you, not that you strongly desire her.
For a typical straight male at age 22, the powerful desire to touch and feel a woman's sexual power is so overwhelming it is unquestionable and doubts you'd like sex with them wouldn't occur tn me.
Clay wrote:
> I think the only way for me to really be sure one way
> or another is to actually have sex with a girl and see how
> I like it. I think I will like it, based on what I have
> seen in the pornos.
If you're not sure from your own feelings, and think trying it out is the only way to find out you're straight, that's pretty clearly not heterosexual.
I hope one day you can learn to love yourself for what you are. We're only trying to help.
Peace,
Nick
Clay (no login)
Nick and Susan
November 25 2004, 10:17 PM
Nick, I was hoping that out of everyone, you would at least believe that I'm a heterosexual. I still don't don't see why all of you want me to be gay, in order for me to be truly happy. I've told you all repeatedly that I don't have any sexual feelings for men, but you all think that I'm denying my true feelings.
Susan believes that I need counseling to be happy. I am happy the way that I am. I would just be a little happier with a girlfriend. If we decide to have sex with eachother then that will be just fine.
Susan, you said that I fit the profile of a person who is stuck in the "closet." I don't see why you believe that. Just because I'm a virgin and because I had one dream in which me and some dude were having sex, you automatically conclude that I'm a flammer.
I should have started dating and having sex when I was younger. I just didn't have the overwealming urge to. I'll have to make up for lost time. There isn't any closet to come out of, since I'm straight as a board.
I don't want you to be gay. Nor do I think you need to be gay to be happy. But what I do think is that you are running away from your feelings. People's sexuality is usually much more pronounced than your's is - when you were younger and especially now. If you weren't so into masturbation I might think you were asexual or had a low sex drive - but from what you say you have neither. You have such negative feelings toward homosexuality that if you were gay I am not sure you would ever admit it to yourself or anyone else.
Susan
Clay (no login)
Re: Nick and Susan
November 26 2004, 9:21 AM
You're right Susan. If indeed I were gay then I wouldn't admit that to anyone as I would be very disgraced at myself for letting that happen.
Susan, something kind of strange happened when I was masterbating "chick-style" (just using my fingers to rub the head of my penis and no dildo). When I finally reached orgasm, my face became really hot and my hearing shut-off for about 4 seconds. I like to listen to the radio when masterbating and it's like I went deaf for 4 seconds. Has this ever happened to you or have you ever heard of this happening?
Clay
(no login)
Re: Nick and Susan
November 26 2004, 11:57 AM
Clay, </P>
I have my doubts you really could not hear. My guess is that you experienced what I experience when I am having my best orgasms. I call what I do is to go to another plane of existence. I feel as if I leave the room and continue my orgasm elsewhere. If I am spoken to during this time it simply doesn't register and it seems like I don't hear it - I am in my own little world.</P>
Research has yet to determine why some people are gay - but what is absolutely clear is people do NOT CHOOSE to be gay. It is not something you let happen. </P>
It is obvious from research that there is a genetic component in at least some cases. There have been twin studies done that include a gay man or lesbian woman in several counties and in different decades that found that identical twins are almost without exception both gay if one is. But in nonidentical twins it is much more random - as random as in non-twin siblings. </P>
Identical twins come from one egg that divides - and so both twins have identical chromonosones and gene structure. Nonidentical twins come from 2 eggs and have their own distinct set of chromosones and gene structure. The fact that a very few twins have been found to be identical but not both gay - indicates possibly that they are not technically identical twins - but that they are simply like siblings born at different times- nearly identically in every way and that the chromosone difference is not something easily observed via microscopic examination. </P>
When research with identical twins was done - it was discovered that both recognized their gay feeling at the same time in their life. Some knew they were different (but not necessarly know the word gay) when they were 4 or 5 years old. Some didn't recognize their feelings until puberty or later. </P>
But there is also evidence that some people do become gay because they were abused at a young age. This has been found to be abuse (and not necessarily sexual) when a child is very young - under 5 - before their sexual feelings have developed. This can be a response of becoming gay because they were sexually abused by someone of the same sex - OR - because abused by someone of the opposite sex. But it is possible that these people would have been gay anyway - but that this just made the feelings become more pronounced earlier. </P>
When I was younger I had two best friends who were gay. Mark was abused by his mom when he was young. He was locked into closets as a punishment. His hatred toward women - all women - stemmed from this abuse. Very very few women ever got close to Mark. Mark was a very angry man, very masculine, a computer geek, and a leader in gay pride organizations. He knew when he was a child - there was never any doubt he was gay - and never any desire to change. Jim on the other hand loved women. He had sexual relationships with women when he was young - but they never seemed quite right. It took him a long time to admit that he was gay and was truly himself when he was gay. He really fought his gay feelings. He never stopped having lots of women in his life. He was also a very masculine man, a talented song writer singer, never came out openly as a gay man, but was known in his circle of friends as gay. These two men had a wonderful long term relationship. </P>
There are organizations that claim they can help a gay person stop being gay. What they successfully do is to help people to not engage in gay behavior and to embrace a straight lifestyle and give them support to continue to live a straight lifestyle, and have support when they have gay feelings they want to submerge.</P>
Clay, you will never truly be happy until you accept yourself. You have in the past done things that are not what most peeople do. You need to find out why you did them and what effect it has had on you. You are living a life that is not ordinary - and everyone has the right to live an unordinary life - but you are also notliving a life as happily as I believe you could.</P>
Susan</P>
rita from australia (no login)
Re: Nick and Susan
November 28 2004, 12:44 AM
I have been reading this post for a few days now and I hope you guys dont mind me putting in my 2cents.
When I met my husband (we were both 25yo), he was VERY sexually inexperienced - he said he didnt feel the desire to go out with/have a sexual relationship with girls. He said he liked girls, but was shy/had low self esteem and was afraid of rejection - he also didnt like the thought of going out with someone who slept around. It took a long time for my husband to be able to have an orgasm with me (this was a very difficult time for me - "whats wrong with me" etc etc), but I was patient because I loved him so much.
My husband is a VERY straight hetrosexual, and not in denial, he accepts peoples sexual choices (my dearly loved brother is gay).
My husband very much loves anal stimulation and we more often than not use dildos etc anally on him during sex play - he says that it is an orgasm like no other. He has only recently (in the past year) been able to be open with me about the anal stimulation as he previously thought it was only gay guys who did such things - social stereotyping has a lot to answer for!
So Clay, jsut because you do not have sex right now, and because you are open enough about your sexuality to enjoy anal pleasure as part of your sexual experience does not make you gay. Be true to yourself. If youre gay, fine. If youre not, fine too.
Its also my belief that dreams do not have any impact whatsoever on your sexual predisposition - Lordy - if that were the case, I should be committed!!
Nick you sound like a great guy - I hope things work out for you My uncle is disabled, and his homecare lady takes care of the masturbation thing for him (I think its pretty clinical rubber glove etc, but I think its great he has this form of release) - is this an option for you? Good luck in love, sex and your crusade xx
Clay (no login)
Re: Nick and Susan
November 28 2004, 1:22 PM
Finally, someone who thinks I'm not gay. Thank you for your comments rita. It was really helpful and reasurring knowing that there are others like me out there (like your husband). Probably not too many of us fit into that category, but it's nice to know that I'm not the only one.
Clay...I'm glad you found it reassuring - that is important. Everyone doesn't think you are gay no matter what you think we are saying. One important difference to note between you and Rita's husband - he does not have negative feelings toward gay people as you do, and he hasn't been as far as we know been involved in incestual relationships. That makes a critical difference. Susan
This message has been edited by Xuxan on Nov 28, 2004 4:46 PM
monette (no login)
Re: What happend
November 29 2004, 11:04 PM
Hi Clay,
Having read your experiences, I don't believe you are gay. I guess being a teenager, we tend to be curious and adventurous about stuff.
Whilst reading your experiences questions popped in my head.
How do you think your partner would react about your past experiences? Knowing you had sex with your sister?
Honestly, I asked myself that question if it happened to my husband. (Thank goodness his simblings are all male) I don't think I can stomach it. (Sorry - some realities are really that hard to take in.)
Clay...whether you are gay, straight or somewhere in-between or do not even know for sure yourself, is actually your own personal business.
Howver, it's the way you comment on issues that gives us the impression that you really need to have some professional help...going to one of these counselors will NOT be embarassing and may provide you with direction and make you feel much better about yourself. Isn't that good?
Of course, you cannot change whats happened in the past. So why bother...it's gone. But, if the past is affecting every thing you do as you attempt to seek out your sexuality, then I strongly advise, as Susan has, that you do this one simple thing for yourself.
We all recognize the fact that it is difficult to know exactly what your sexuality is if you have never actually experienced intercourse with a female. Years ago, I was confused and unsure myself...not about my choice, but whether having a relationship was the right thing to do. It turned out to be the best thing I ever did cause I would have been a bum today.
Basically, if you have narrowed all your choices down to one particular type of person that is going to be difficult , if not impossible to find. If you expect to have a male/ female relationship, you need to relax your own rules that have placed you in a to what I interpret as an "sexual prison" and the only one that has the key is YOU!
Gregorio
Clay (no login)
Re: What happend
November 30 2004, 8:53 AM
Monette, I don't know how my future girlfriend/wife will react to knowing that I had an incestuous relationship with my sister. I just won't tell her that. Some things are better left unspoken and I think this would be one of those things. I imagine she would freak out and probably break-up with me if I did tell her.
Clay
Guy (no login)
Clay
December 1 2004, 1:02 PM
I hope for your sake, that you take this web site & ALL it's advice with a grain of salt. You don't REALLY know these people or what their training or motivation is.?
Susan has the nerve to tell you 'her' double standard of what's right & wrong. Just know in your own heart that you know right from wrong.
Incest is more common than we all like to admit. Nobody is proud of it, but it happens. Kids do stupid things all the time. Don't worry or stress about it. The one person you may want to discuss this with is your sister. Sounds like she may be hurting from some of her past experiences. My wife did it, I played around with some friends & family when I was young. Kids don't really know enough to care about right & wrong. That's the difference between mature & immature, knowing the difference & acting appropriately. Something Susan still struggles with understanding. Or perhaps she knows but chooses to rebel? There's a certain appeal to rebellion. It's thrilling...exciting....dangerous...etc. I believe EVERYTHING in life is a choice. Even being gay. Choose the truth.
You're ok, I'm ok.
Guy
Guy.....Clay has been coming here for months - so obviously he thinks the advice here has value to him. Clay has never once expressed what he did was OK. Incest may be more common than is discussed openly, but it is still more often than not extremely damaging to the at least one of the people who engage in it, if not both.
And if you want to know what my training is and my motivation is - all you need to do is check other pages of my website. Susan
This message has been edited by Xuxan on Dec 1, 2004 1:15 PM
I believe dreams are visions and interpretations of pure truth, unfiltered by the qualms, inhibitions and prejudices of our reality. Clay's dream and his reaction within it says more than anything he could type.
Nick
Clay (no login)
Re: Clay
December 2 2004, 4:06 PM
It's pretty clear that you think I'm gay based on the dream I had. Thanks Nick.
Ali (no login)
Re: Clay
December 2 2004, 7:08 PM
Clay, whether you are gay or not, why do you care what everyone else on this site thinks? Just be who you are and be proud, if you were you wouldn't really care what people thought. Just be honest with yourself. You already know who you are, you just have to come to terms with it. No matter what it is. And if someone trully loved you, they would help you deal with what happened to you as a kid. But if you deal with all that now then maybe that is something that won't have to come up later. But if you don't deal with it now there is a strong chance it could have an effect on future relationships where you will need to discuss it.
My uncle is disabled, and his homecare lady takes care of the masturbation thing for him (I think its pretty clinical rubber glove etc, but I think its great he has this form of release) - is this an option for you? Good luck in love, sex and your crusade xx