Brian,

Regarding your formula of November 29th @ 10.53 a.m.

1/1000 min. Eq./mer. = 1/1000 naut.ml. = 72.922 in.

Brian, first get your number right.

1/1000 min. Eq./mer. = 1/1000 naut.ml. = 72.960 in.

Brian, secondly get your formula right.

1/1000 sec. Eq./mer. = 1.216 in.
1 fl.oz. = 1.800 cu.in. =/> 1.216 x 1.216 x 1.216 in.
1 av.oz. wine = 1.800 cu.in.

1 av.oz. wheat = 2.100 cu.in.

1/6080 min. Eq./mer. = 1/6080 naut.ml. = 1 ft.
1 ft. = 12 in.
1 cu.ft. = 12 x 12 x 12 in.
1/1000 cu.ft. = 1.728 cu.in.
1 av.oz. distilled water @ 39.2 F = 1.728 cu.in.

Brian, if you need more info, see site:

http://www.weights-and-measures.com

And topics:

Common Weights & Measures Formula
Common Time

You are wrong, xcole: a nuatical mile (that is, a natural one) is not 6080 ft- that is just to make the statute mile-nautical mile conversion easier (1n mile = 1 s mile + 800ft).

Bryan, it is standard policy on these msg boards to ignore any messages by xcole. What he speaks is a load of crap copied and pasted straight from his utterly tedious website! IGNORE THIS FOOL!

I started posting on these boards a while ago. I know of xcle, but I just felt like humouring him. Cheers.

Dear xcole,

Could you please state what relationship there has been, historically (if any), between the inch and the cubit - i.e. between the inch and all the different lengths of cubit that have existed. I'm especially interested in the oldest three societies' measurements - Hebrew, Babylonian, Egyptian.

What I'm interested in particularly is whether the cubit was ever known to have been divided into inches, and if so how many inches in a cubit.

I would also like to know if you understand there to have been an historical 'foot' which was used as an ancient measurement timeously with any of the 'cubits' and, if so, what their relationship was [I have already made a tentative posting on this subject on this bulletin board in the past].

Do you know of any websites with some reasonably authoritative information which touch on this subject? - or any articles/books?

Can we say, for example, what units of linear measurement were used to construct the Pyramids? Or buildings in Babylon?

Thank you

The pyrimids were apparently contructed using the "sacred cubit"- 6/5 the Royal cubit, or whatever that was- this sacred cubit being a decimal fraction of the Earth's diameter, and being divided into 25ths and 100ths. The former unit is known as the "Primitive inch" or "Pyramid" by Egyptologists.

Alexander Thom, a retired professor of engineering who became an archeologist after he retired argued that the unit od measure used for British sacred sites was a unit of about 0.829m (which he dubbed a "megalitic yard"). This unit is about one pace. His basis for using this measure was that ther eis statisticakl evidence that multiples of this measure occured at many megalithic sites. There is of course no record of whether or not this unit was subdivided, let alone how it was subdivided.

Tony,

Regarding your questions of November 30th @ 10.33 a.m.

1. What is the relationship between the inch and the statute cubit.

2. What is the relationship between the inch and the hebrew cubit.

3. What is the relationship between the inch and the babylonian cubit.

4. What is the relationship between the inch and the egyptian cubit.

5. Was the cubit divided into inches.

6. What is the relationship between the foot and the statute cubit.

7. What is the relationship between the foot and the hebrew cubit.

8. What is the relationship between the foot and the babylonian cubit.

9. What is the relationship between the foot and the egyptian cubit.

10. Is there any authoritive website/article/book on the construction of the cubit.

11. What linear measure was used to build the pyramids.

12. What linear measure was used to build babylonian buildings.

Tony, I am not a historian or archeologist, and therefore I cannot answer most of your questions. Neither do I have the time to do any research. Nevertheless, I will give what information I have.

1. The inch is the basis of all weights and measures. The statute cubit is of no importance, as it is just a third hand measure.

1 yd. = 36 in.
1/2 yd. = 1 stat. cubit

2. I don't know.

3. 1 don't know.

4. The egyptians stripped the 15 divisor out of the system, so they would have less units to deal with. That's why we still run two different methods off the same system today.

babylonian 1/1000 sec. = 1.216 in.
egyptian 1/1000 sec. = 18.24 in.

5. Tony, all weights and measures are based on the inch. The statute cubit is divided into 18 inches. But the egyptian cubit cannot be, as it is 18.24 inches. As for the other cubits you mentioned, I cannot say. Today we usually regard the egyptian alterations as "improvements", and the Napoleon Emperor's Republic of Europe alterations as "inanities". But don't forget that over 6000 years, others have also tried to alter the system. The spaniards used the system below for a time.

1 circumference
6 sextants
360 degrees
25,200 minutes
2,016,000 seconds
8,064,000 luga
24,192,000 braza
48,384,000 vara
145,152,000 pie
1,741,824,000 pulgada
1 pulgada = 19/21 inch

6. As already stated, the statute cubit is a third hand measure. The inch is the basis of all weights and measures, but like everything else in this world, something means nothing, unless it is compared or used with something else. That "something else" is the foot, because the foot is 12 inches.

3 in. + 4 in. + 5 in. = 12 in.

7. I don't know.

8. Exactly the same as today.

9. None, because the 15 divisor is used.

1 statute cubit = 18 in.
1 egyptian cubit = 18.24 in.

10. I don't know.

11. I don't know, but I assume it is one of the following:

0.7500 in.
0.9120 in.
1.0000 in.
1.2160 in.
1.2500 in.
1.5200 in.
9.0000 in.
10.944 in.
11.250 in.
12.000 in.
12.500 in.
13.680 in.
14.592 in.
15.000 in.
15.200 in.
16 2/3 in.
18.240 in.
18.750 in.
20 4/15 in.
20 5/6 in.
22.500 in.
22.800 in.
25 1/3 in.
27.360 in.
30.000 in.
36.480 in.
37.500 in.
45.600 in.

12. 1.216 in. and 1 in.

Tony, the following contains some standard information:

http://www.weights-and-measures.com

And topic:

Common Sexagesimal Measure