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Pat Honey doesn't know what he's talking about

May 15 2003 at 2:26 AM
Conrad 

 
Take a look at http://www.bwmaonline.com/News.htm and scroll down to "BWMA to extend feet and inches campaign to petrol stations (April 25th, 2003)"

Apparently, the BWMA is extremely proud that some Safeway supermarket amended its "non-compliant sign" following the advice by BWMA member Pat Honey.

The metric-only sign said ' 2.5 m ', which is perfectly in accordance with international SI rules.

The amateurishly amended sign now says ' 2.5 Mts / 8'2" '. According to Pat Honey it's now a lawful sign, but now it's obviously not in accordance anymore with SI rules.

I think the sign should be RE-amended
either by ARAASNASR, (Active Resistance to Amateurishly Amended Signs Not in Accordance with SI rules),
or even by better by *ARM ITSELF* !

 
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Bud

Re: Pat Honey doesn't know what he's talking about

May 15 2003, 5:28 AM 

Why do traffic signs have to follow SI rules?

 
 
martin

Re: Pat Honey doesn't know what he's talking about

May 15 2003, 6:38 AM 

The expression ' 2.5 Mts / 8'2" ' breaks a number of rules.

1. "Mts" shoudl never be used. The approved symbol is "m".

2. I am only aware of on eplace where symbols for feet and inches are defined and that is in the EU directive 80/181/EEC. It says that the approved symbol for feet is "ft" and for inches is "in". I know of no other document which *explicitly* states that single quotes may be used to represent feet and double quotes used ot represent inches.

 
 
martin

Re: Pat Honey doesn't know what he's talking about

May 15 2003, 6:43 AM 

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Why do traffic signs have to follow SI rules?
>>

They do not. Legally, the UK is required to pass legislation that implements the EU directive 80/181/EEC. This directive essentially repeats the recomendations of the International Bureau for Weights and Measures (BIPM) and allows a few extentions that the Thatcher Government negotiated.

The BIPM recomendations are SI plus some extensions that are in common use in many countries.

The BIPM web site is at www.bipm.fr while the EU directive can be found by following links in www.metric.org.uk

 
 

Re: Pat Honey doesn't know what he's talking about

May 15 2003, 12:11 PM 

I also have a scratched record at home.

I need to replace it.

 
 
Richard

Re: Pat Honey doesn't know what he's talking about

May 15 2003, 5:51 PM 

<<
1. "Mts" shoudl never be used. The approved symbol is "m".
>>

Totally agree with you Martin but some of the anti-metricists might think 2.5m is 2 1/2 miles!

 
 

Re: Pat Honey doesn't know what he's talking about

May 15 2003, 5:59 PM 

No!

It is actually 2.5 million

as in "2.5m unemployed"

 
 
martin

Re: Pat Honey doesn't know what he's talking about

May 16 2003, 6:21 AM 

The prefix for mega (as in megawatt) (mega = million) is "M", not "m".

 
 

Re: Pat Honey doesn't know what he's talking about

May 16 2003, 11:38 AM 

I bet you managed to post that particular one in less than 2m....

 
 
martin.

Re: Pat Honey doesn't know what he's talking about

May 16 2003, 11:42 AM 

Steve, you seemed a little lost. BIPM's recomended symbol for minutes (as in time) is "min".

 
 

Re: Pat Honey doesn't know what he's talking about

May 16 2003, 2:27 PM 

Do you go around marking newspapers, signs, books, your television screen everytime this happens?

This must have happened at least 1m times!

 
 
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