Interesting! Did you see mechanical Miyota's in >>
Timex and Aqua? Recent models? The Miyota automatics are really rugged and good, same movement as Citizen use in all the auto diver's for example. Also Invicta uses them for their Pro-diver series. I know for a fact that Timex has been using Miyota quartz movements in their recent men's chronograph models. However for these new automatics I'm pretty sure they're the chinese ones, especially if they have the complications like power reserve. They look the same as seen many times on the 'bay.