why are jkd people so opposed to belts; yet, advocates of the certificate system for rank? they are essentialy the same thing. one you wear around your waist and the other you frame and hang on a wall.

Hello!

There is a big difference between belts and certificates! The belt is worn with a uniform to display your rank in the specific system of martial arts you are studying, therefore announcing on site that you are "such and such belt" to anyone that sees a class in action. Certicates are either at home on a wall or put away somewhere, symbolizing the personal satisfaction that you have achieved something in Jeet Kune Do. There is no "public display" of what your rank is! This can definitely have it's advantages!

Also, most Jeet Kune Do kwoons do not have a set required uniform. Therefore, belts would look pretty goofy with some of the things that JKD people wear! LOL At my kwoon, students are required to eventually purchase gung fu pants and t-shirts with the Hardcore Jeet Kune Do logo embroidered on them, but it is not an absolute neccesity for anyone to achieve any kind of rank! That is up to the individual and no pressure is placed on them! I hope this clears things up a bit for you!

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Sifu Lamar M. Davis II
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Hardcore Jeet Kune Do
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you are still acquiring an extrinsic tangible reward from an outside source. this is the underlying ffunctionality of both belts and certificates.

The Belt is worn as an visual show of your rank for all to see, whereas your certificate is not! The belt is more of an "ego driven" thing, you know, as in "hey everyone, look what I've got!" Therefore, there still remains a big difference there! I'm not arguing with you here, by the way, just stating a fact! I realize what you are saying, but unless you also realize what I'm saying, we are just going in circles here!

Keep Blasting!
Sifu Lamar M. Davis II
Senior Instructor
Hardcore Jeet Kune Do
Sifu@HardcoreJKD.com
http://www.HardcoreJKD.com
http://www.RealCombatOnline.com
Phone (205) 956-1901

"Hit Hard, Hit Fast, Hit First - ALWAYS!"