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I was wondering if you could possibly answer a question I have about kicking structure.
I have seen (on a video) a method of 5-point kicking where you keep your body almost vertical and fall into the kicks before snapping them (e.g side kick to 3 o'clock). I had thought that this looked like an excellent way of kicking since it puts more mass into the kick as opposed to the way most people kick by leaning back on delivery.
I just wondered if you had ever come across this way of kicking and also, if you thought that it was a good (or perhaps not so good!) way to kick?
Yes, I have seen that approach to the five way kicking drill. As you said, it is good for getting more weight into the kick on impact. The bad thing is that the forward lean before the kick is telegraphic, and you may be a bit too overcommited to the kick in the case that your opponent should move out of the way! Also, proper Jeet Kune Do kicking involves NO CHAMBERING! The kick should follow a straight line from the point of initiation to the point of impact. The chamber is telegraphic and totally unnecessary. Falling into a kick like this may cause some chambering, as leaning into the kick before initiating delivery can destroy the ability to execute the kick in the normal direct line followed by JKD kicks. With this drill, like most drill variations, there are good points and bad points. That is why I feel that it is best to practice as many ways as possible to do certain drills, as long as you don't get overly complicated with the drills!
many thanks for that - these were more or less the same conclusions that I had come to when messing around with this type of kicking. I normally kick in the normal "JKD" way without chambering - this just seemed like an interesting idea to play around with - perhaps it's a bit too complicated though?
If I can manage to kick at the same time as I fall then perhaps it could work for me without being too telegraphic - I use a snap at the end of the kick, which if done fast enough, helps with recovery - I also noticed that you can deliver a half beat punch much earlier with this way of kicking.
just out of interest, could I ask, where have you seen this type of kicking being done? I had thought that it could perhaps have been something that was done in Oakland?
Yes, I have that curriculum - at first I wasn't so sure it was an original cirriculum but apparently it was shown in an old BLF or Nucleus magazine if I recall correctly.
From what I gather the 3-corner drill is related to the active kicking form taught in Oakland that basically shows some of the different ways that you can use a kick - I don't have the book, but I believe that the kicking drills are in David William Cox's book: "Tao of Gung Fu: Kikcing Drills". I think I will get this book very soon (also I may get Leo Fong's books and the other David William Cox Book, "Tao Kune Do".
I do like some of the things that I have been shown from the Oakland period, but unfortunately there seem to be few written sources, especially for the Oakland and Seattle period.
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