Sifu,

With the Wing Chun neutral stance, do you advocate parallel feet, or toes turned inwards?

Hello Declan!

As you know, much of Wing Chun is based on the triangle, which is the strongest structure in nature. The toes point inward! It is as if the heels are two points of the triangle and the toes point toward the third point! Hope that helps!

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but to make a proper triangle stance would'nt it need to have 3 legs?

i dont think that humans are made to have the feet put inward personaly.and if you do it for long i dont think its good for the knees.

i use the triangle stance for the wing-chun forms cause thats the way they have been made and i dont feel the desire to change them but when i train in chi-sao i let my foot straight but my knees slightly bent going inside.

just my point of view


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Hi Marc,
The stance you refer to is Kim yeung mah. It has many purposes. First it is not really a neutral stance. It is actually a transitional position. You go through this position in some cases when stepping and moving from one stance to another. It protects the groin and secures your stability when shifting. It is used so often when training because of its unique ability to strengthen the muscles required for proper wing chun applications. I understand your concern about the knees but this is really only a concern if it is practiced improperly. When the toes point inward the kness are pressed in but more importantly the knees move inward due to sinking into and slightly forward in the stance ( towards the apex of the triangel). When the stance is practiced properly force is actually exerted against the ground and the feet grip the floor. This is impossible unless the angel is correct. Once the structure of this stance is built into your internal system it is applied in everythhing you do. You may not see it but it is there. Just as Sifu often reminds us that Bruce Lee maintained his wing chu internal structure, Kim yeung mah is the foundation of everything done in wing chun. It is the foundation of the building.
Kimsut

thanks for the info Jeetsao

i tought we where talking about the stance used for the form.

i guess that the neutral stance is like the small horse stance then or something similar to that. i do not use it cause at a point i tought i better train like i fight and fight like i train so i do almost all my training from the ready position except for self defence things that i start facing my parthner but afther the first movement i fall in the ready position anyway.

ok take care

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You are correct Marc, The stance I described is the stance used in the form, siu nim tao. I said that it is a transitional stance, but it is trained static. Training in this position, the form and chi sao, really develops the specific muscles for wing chun applications. As for training the way you fight, of course there is much merrit. However remember, Boxers jump rope but don't skip when they fight. They chop wood but don't bring an ax into the ring. Some methods of training develop a certain attribute but don't really look like the application.
Jeetsao

Nice input Kimsut!

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Thanks Sifu, spot on!