I cant use these over a distance off about 500 yards whats the problem? I have tried reading the instrucions but they are too complicated. I am new to this. Is there a certain frequency you should be on for long transmissions or any functions that should be turned on?
I just bought me an Twintalker 6000 Combo set from TopCom.
I tested a little bit and it was very disapointing.
From 2 houses seperated with 700 Meters, the Twintalkers arn't working anymore.Even 1000 Meters in open field is pretty heavy for the units.
I also noticed that the display can do more then it does now.Maybee someone has some hidden features for this model? thx in advance
I have seen the te145 rigs for £29 per set in my Currys. Has anyone managed to get the 145/157 mod to enable FRS/KPD and 70cm bands to work properly, ie RX and TX. I have seen the vco mod but does it work?
Just need to know before I shell out £29 on them
Using the supplied mod from Delboy's site I have enabled the band select on both my te145s. I can transmit on PMR as usual and also on the KDR bands as well but I cannot get the LPD bands ro RX or TX. But it happily TX/RX on KDR channels.
Anyone else had any luck?
Have anyone tried to do a power adjustment on this radio ? Ive got a schema on the Midland 75-440 its the
american model of this radio and it has 2 w output on the Hi output.
on the schema it says there are two adjustmentspoint for output, one for Lo power and one for Hi power and the are called RV561 Lo and RV555 Hi
hi have trying to get info on this radio IE:programing software or arial or anything else not had much luck what are these you are refering to RV561 Lo and RV555 Hi
I got the electronics schematic on the american radio Midland 75-440 and there are a two adjustments point called RV555 and it for hipower adjustment and one called Rv561 and its for low power adjustment the midland have 2w output hipower and 0,5w low power
and when i email the swedish agent for Alan they said thet the Hp-446 dont have any adjustment like the 75-440 but even if it had i dont think they woul told me
give me your adress i can mail you the schematics .
If you wish u can read slowly that page where this nice Yagi antenna is explained. My only effort was to translate some basic ideas to my friends in Spain and to add some pictures.
No - It's a great page full of interesting info but I tried to get google to translate it into English and I dont think that Google made a very good job of it !
Mind you it did a better job than I could have done !!!
hello poker, i think that the pmr on the picture is almolst same as mine TWINTALKER 3300/ucom. would you have any mods? have you been able to construct any PTT headset? thanks !
The handy in the picture its a Tti-122, also known as FLYTALK LOOK.The schematic in my web page ive got from inet, sorry i dont remeber where, it seems to be valid for Twin Talker 3000 as stated in the schematic but also works the same way with my FLYTALK LOOK (Tti-122)
About my PMR im sorry but i dont know any mods, in the other hand, im happy with it as it is and my goal is to
obtain maximun distance with the original power but increasing antenna performance. Its so easy to home-make an antenna for 446Mhz!
According to the mod pages the connectors at base of the TE150 on some units are wired as recharging circuit. If this is the case, how can I utilise them?
Hi... Thats correct. I have build a desktop charger.
I put in 6.2 volt, + to the left, and the bat indicator start flashing. 6.5 volts give the battery
approx 65 ma, 10% of the total capacity.
(650 MaH)
Works ok...
Ulf
Can I bye an original charger for my TE150, where do you set youre charger to the TE150 ?? cant see any conetions on it. On a Twin Talker 3000 I have seen that you can put the charger in the "headphones" on thr top off it.
sorry for my bad english
I read about your fourm and pop-ups etc, all you need to do is find some1 that is willing to PHPBB or vBullient Fourm. These forums are add-free VVERY good and are set up and uploaded on your webspace
Other good things about them are u can set it so that members have to sign up so u dont get ne spam etc, or like now have it so dont need to sign up. You will get far much more admin control, and you can also give members that sign up admin control or modorator, well people you know and trust of course, which in end, makes the forum alot better and spam free.
you can have sigs - sigs are little picture people can add to the end of these message as a sign, like you see on gaming forums etc, look on, http://www.nightstalkers.co.uk, or http://www.no3hq.net as an exsample of there forums, the forums can also be skined, which means to match the website , these forums have a much better and clear layout also.
Anyways, just thought i'd let u no, if u post a post delboy asking some1 to help, im sure some1, there r plenty of gr8 people out there!
I dont want a forum that you have to Sign Up to that's for sure. I like the informal style of this forum but I do hate the pop ups that some people seem to get.
I must admit that I dont seem to get nearly as many pop ups as other people. Maybe I have my internet settings just right but I only get the occasional pop up !
One important thing is to ignore ANY pop up that asks you to download software. You do not need to install any software to use this forum. My forum provider appears to be trying to get me to cough up some dosh in exchange for stopping the pop ups, You'd think they'd be happy with all the advertising revenue as this site is one of their most popular forums !!!
I am currently getting over 1000 visits per day !!!
Anyway the forum's here - Use it if you want - After all it's free !
delboy....... ok, found a better forum for u, its kinda like this one but , betta lol , i fink u just get a banner on the forum thts all, no gator crap thats for sure..
remember this is like this 1, so , all u do is set it to allow guest to see all, which i think its set to as default anyways, much better and noooooo pop-ups, u have a banner top and bottom of forum.
well let me knw wht u fink, also lets u set time to UK, so tht it dont show american time when some1 posts
I totaly agree with the 1st post by Davey the vBullient Forums are by far the best, PLEASE switch to this system, for one thing you can "Search" for subjects , radios, easyer instead of trollin through all the pages.
I dont get popups i guess i have good firewall zonealarm pro 4 and McAffee firewalls..
There is a new PMR 446 radio coming from Icom, namely the IC-4088SR. But does anyone know when it's coming to the UK, or how much it will be? It's already available in Europe.
I have bought the new Icom 4088SR. It seems to be a nice radio with all the functions I need.
Now I am looking for a way to increase the TX power, Ive heard that its built for 5W output RMS.
Anyone know where to find information regarding this?
I've heard reports that the audio is dull and not loud enough for noisy areas. What do you think of the audio? Do you have any other comments on the radio, good or bad, as i'm thinking of buying a pair when they are available in the UK next month. Also, do they have tone decode facility and do they scan all the codes programmed for each channel or without tones?
Have u got any answers by email? Im also a user of a pair of twintalker 3300 and looking for mods. Found a site that had some mods for TT 3000, but that doesnt seem to work on the 3300. link: www.pulsarfm.nl/tt3000.htm
these are different names for the same device. does anyone has any kind of modification? is there any ptt headset for this device? i have already tried to adjust the ptt headset of the topcom 3000 (the lidl pmr) but doesnt seem to work. Any ideas? thanks! have a nice christmass everybody!
I recently purchased a TELCOM TE150 from eBay. It has been modded to allow it to receive extra channels. However it does not transmit or receive in PMR mode. I assume that it doesnt work in the other modes too, but cant test this. I have tried the radio with my existing Oregon TP-326 (codes on and off) and nothing happens.
Is there anything obvious worth checking before I send it back?
te150 converted tx but no rx, any ideas please
by ken
i just did the link conversion on a te150, i seem to transmit on lpd mode but no receive, yet pmr mode still works fine, i have read all of the previous posts and cant seem to find this problem before, has anyoine any ideas please, thanks...ken
Re: te150 converted tx but no rx, any ideas please
by Per Mårtnesson SM0UAX
The voltage on the oscillator is to low.
On the small PCB there is a little hole. Behind it there is a coil try to make the windings closer. You can measure the VCO voltage on a via just down left from the hole ( a long stripe makes a turn around this via). You will have round or below 0.5v and you can increase it by pressing the coil together
SM0UAX
Re: te150 converted tx but no rx, any ideas please
by ken
great, thank you, wonderful, may i email delboy to ask him to put it on the mod page as it seems to be a vital part of the modification, i squuezed the coil together and it worked straight away, what can i say, many thanks regards....ken
I have had a good look through your forum and noticed peoples advice. It seems that the coil on mine has already been pressed together. And this problem seems to be affecting both TX and RX in PMR mode. I havent been able to verify the other modes.
I have looked right throuh this forum and this seems to be a new problem.
They guy I bought it from is happy to replace the radio so it's not desperate.
Bought the binatone MR600, and I wander if any one can tell me how to incrase the range of the 2 porto's.
Please mail me or post a message here if you can help me or tell me how to do this.
THX!!!
What with confusing new laws for mobile phone users, it could give a ray of life back to the CB / PMR / 2-Way radio users. Speed traps and Speed Cameras are realy getting heavey in Sussex, in fact Sussex has more cctv car cameras than anywhere else in the UK.
I think this is why so many people are using there CBs again. I am working "slowly" with local CB'rs who are helping me log all the cameras onto a digital online map!, this is going to take a while but as soon as ive got a basic graphic up, i'll post up the address,ok people will be able to email me updates.Lots more people using PMR as well,must be MAplin in Brighton that does it! so ive started a few projects, made a PMR dipole out of a DAB aerial for Sunday DX, so if anyones around Brighton put out a shout on CHANNEL 8 CTCSS 8 for KAOS!, also monitor 19, & 27.555, 2meters & 70cms are dead in comparison. I'll be having a go at my foundation licence in January i hope.
TE150 - Re to your message: bands for "other radios"
by
Hi,
in Your message of feb 2002, Yuo say:
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"Extra bands in TELCOM TE-150
By Deleo
(Works on some radios)
For these three bands: PMR, LPD and KDR is not needed to open the radio. Just press the "up" and "down" button at the same time you press the "power" button. Hold them until you get the new menu. It will show you different operating modes: P, L, K, PL, LK ,PL , PLK etc. The best mode is PLK, then you will be able to select these three bands through the "Channel" menu.
Other: LO=10mw in LPD band
HI=500mw in LPD band (it may be illegal in some countries)
If you open the radio and "play" with a solder and jumpers you can get a lot of more frequencies, but not all at the same time. A Three Band is enough for me.
Sorry about my English. Deleo."
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Now, I've tried to do the buttons sequence on a italian RTX, that is identic to the UK's T-150 (in Italy by GBC) and it doesen't seems to go.
I've also tried to push "Up", "Down", and ->"TX"<- buttons until turning on the RTX (preesing the "power-on button").
The menu is appeared, and I can choose one of theese operative modes: "PMR","P.K.L","K.L","P.L","P.K","LPD","KDR". I've choosed the "P.K.L" mode, as You say, and power mode "HI".
At now, I have not measured the output power to check if it's increased to 500mW in LPD band, I'll do it later...
Try it and tell to the other guys. )
This mod is intended for experimental use only. The RTX can become outlaw in some countries. Check local laws before use.
(Sorry for my English)
Greetings,
73 de IZ5BYH
Whats the big problem with buying and FRS or GMRS two-way? There seems to be a lot more chioc in in the US and some have considerably longer ranges...will I be able to use them in Europe without the gendarmerei locking me up? is it illegal or just oncooth!!!
Also, will I be able to talk to those on a PMR446 two-way?
The problem is that I will only want to use it for skiing about two weeks of the year, and dont want to spend such a high price (circa 80) for a reasonable quality two-way
BINATONE MR610 X2 FOR JUST £35 , BACK IN STOCK IN MAPLIN.CO.UK , INCS NICADS CHARGER HANDSFREE BELT CLIPS , AND MANY MORE FEATURES THAN THE BLUE OREGANS 326? THEY WHERE KNOCKING OUT. THE BINATONES FEATURE A TIMER/STOPWATCH? UP DOWN VOL, VOX, SCAN , MONITOR, LOCK, CALL TONE BUTTON, PWR ON-OFF, NICE DISPLAY, SHOWS TX HANDSET, CH & CTCSS, I SUPPOSE A "CLOCK" OR "AM-FM" RADIO OPTION WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER, BUT FOR THE THE PURPOSE IN HAND YOU CANT BEAT THE PRICE. AND THEY CLAIM A 3KM RANGE COMPAIRED TO 2KM RANGE CLAIMED BY MANY OTHERS, AND THATS WITHOUT ANY TWEAKING, PLEASE EMAIL ME IF YOU HAVE ANY LUCK MODING ONE OF THESE, IVE EMAILED THE GUY WHO MODDED THE BLUE OREGANS WITH GREAT RESULTS, THERE IS A LINK TO HIS MODS SOMEWHERE A FEW PAGES BACK
Hey Delboy i cant search whole forums or each page using "find" maybe is time to switch to a better forums system??? i know its hassle but it would realy help out, cheers del , Seasons Greetings!
ive done all the mods ....
if you want the program then i can e/m it to you..
the lead can be got from COMMUNICAITION SPECIALISTS ARSK FOR nick.
+44(0)1256 766600 ..
dont try and put a bnc on this raido [no room],use a sma that will fit this raidio ,but you WILL need to get the one made for this raidio [outhers will not fit..]..allso 2 screws..part nos e04-0413-05 1 off
no9-2319-05 2 off..www.eastcoasttransistor.com....thay are in the USA...
you can get a 1/4 ant with sma from WWW.PANORAMA.CO.UK...PART NUMBER MQ-SMAFR....
OK THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE PROGRAM
power output [dont go higher than 3 watts]
squlch
ctts tons
you can change the MONI BUTTEN SO THAT IT OVERRIDES THE CTTS ON RECIVE..SWICH ON RAIDIO AND PRESS ONCE TO ALOWE YOU TO RECIVE LIKE ITS GOT NO CTTS..
LET ME KNOW HOW YOU GET ON....ITS ALL WORTH IT....
....PIP57
I need to fit the ant remote from the hand unit, I guess I can get a SMA fly lead.
Now for the bit that I have no idea what you mean:
ctts tons
you can change the MONI BUTTEN SO THAT IT OVERRIDES THE CTTS ON RECIVE..SWICH ON RAIDIO AND PRESS ONCE TO ALOWE YOU TO RECIVE LIKE ITS GOT NO CTTS..
ok peter..as standerd ,when you press and hold the moni buttun it opens the squlch,when you release it you can only receve when the outher is using the same ccts tones as you ..eg 88.5 khz..
with the program you can change this so that you can receve evrey thing on the channal without pressing the buttun [just press once when you swich on] ..pip57
fly lead need to make on your self .....im sending you the program
In 'Test Mode', 'RF Power' my 3101 was set at 70 out of a possible 256.
I could not find anywhere else to view or change anything that remotely looked like it might have anything to do with power output.
I thought that 70/256 was a strange figure if 70 represents 0.5W and 256 represents the maximum possible of 5.0W.
I increased the 70 figure to 130, thinking that 130 would be half of 256, so therefore 2.5W, a rough test of the new settings showed no real gain in performance.
This week I've been speaking to a kenwood guy who told me that the new PMR 3101's have a max poss wattage of only 2.0W.
I don't know if this is true, but it would make sense of the 70/256 figures, as 70 is about 25% of 256 and 0.5W is 25% of 2.0W. Therefore my unit could be a 2.0W max radio.
Does anyone have a definitive answer?
Is there a simple way to test the real Wattage output of a radio?
The external aerial kit has worked a treat, but is a completely different issue to the power setting.
hi peter...the way to test the output is to plug in a power meter[most swr metres have this]at the ant output of the meter plug in a 50 ohm dummey load ,then take your reading...
i have the cirkit dig and setup for this raidio ,and it says that the output should be 1watt [500mw erp]thats 70 out of the max...ive not yet tested mine yet ,but wach this space and i WILL let you know wot numbers give for diffrent outputs....but if yours can only give a max of 2 watts then this will be no good to you,...use the swr-power meter insted..pip57
peter...ive put mine on a chep power meter, and this is what ive found...
70=.500MW
166=1WATT
255=1.25WATT
I THOURT THAT IT WOULD BE MOOR THAN THAT,AS I KNOW THAT THAY CAN BE ADJ TO APROX 6WATT..
I MUST HAVE A PAIR OF LATER UNITS....I HOPE THIS HELPS......IF YOU WISH I CAN SEND YOU A FILE THAT YOU CAN PUT INTO YOUR PROGRAM ,THEN LOAD INTO YOUR RAIDIOS.
..SQULCH LOWERD
..MONI BUTTUN ,PRES ONCE AND RELEAS TO ALOWE MONITION ALL TRANSMISIONS ON THE CHANNAL
..POWER OUTPUT 1WATT
.........PIP57
hi all can anyone help me i am after the programing software and scematics of the data cable for the ALAN HP446+ as these use the same software for alan hp405
The HP 405 is simply the licensable PMR version of this radio. It differs from the 446 version in the fact that it is set at 4 watts output uhf 5 watts vhf, and the antenna is removable ?
This morning at 08:15 (BST) I made a long distance contact from Blyth, Northumberland to Chris located in Amsterdam at an approximate distance of 322 MILES !
The conversation, which took place on channel 1, lasted for about 10 minutes and was witnessed at this end by David (M0DAD).
I had noticed that 70cms was absolutely packed with German and Dutch stations which I was able to work with only 1 watt from my home location, so I took my Motorola T6222 to the top of our local pit heap and made the contact.
Full report coming soon.
Now get yourself out and make those DX contacts you’ve always wanted !!!!!!
Hi Stevan and David
Here a little note from us
It's realy nice that whe have made such a long distance speaking on the pmr
We did have a lot of listners here in our country at the same moment.
All of them can here you both only stevan is a lot stronger here
At chris his place stevan make it a signal 5 by a radio 5 and david no signal but whe can here him
We hope we can speak eathother again an then we wait for a signal 9 from you both
Greatings from Jaap and Chris 73's
P.S. we are also active on the cb radio
I saw this today on slashdot.org "The Guinness World Book of Records distance for a wi-fi link is 310 kilometers, and was set by the Swedish company Alvarion and SSC, the Swedish Space Corporation." .. I wonder if they'd be interested in a 446/FRS record? Then again, did Norris McWhirter confirm the contact, LOL
Hi Delboy you want our exact location for the distance
we are about 20 km near amsterdam a town called Almere that's the newest town of the netherlands before almere it was a sea but now its's made into land they called it the flevopolder its in between Amsterdam and Utrecht i think exactly in the middle of our country
at the moment here it's about 30 degrees inside our house i am sweating a lot
i never have seen it so hot here in the netherlands tomorow they say on the news its getting about 37 degrees
i hope we can made this week another conection again whe are still waiting on the frequentie
73's and bye bye
greetings jaap
we did it to dellboy worked both jaap and chis in amterdam me and another station called shane,did it on 2 wats then went on to 500 miliwats and still had the contact going,thanks for telling us of your contact we got them on channel 1 and then went to channel 8 where we had a chat for nearly 1 hour.if the guys from amterdam read this then look after yourselfs from adi and shane
we did it too, dellboy worked both jaap and chis in amterdam me and another station called shane,did it on 2 wats then went on to 500 miliwats and still had the contact going,thanks for telling us of your contact we got them on channel 1 and then went to channel 8 where we had a chat for nearly 1 hour.if the guys from amterdam read this then look after yourselfs from adi and shane
we did it too, dellboy worked both jaap and chis in amterdam me and another station called shane,did it on 2 wats then went on to 500 miliwats and still had the contact going,thanks for telling us of your contact we got them on channel 1 and then went to channel 8 where we had a chat for nearly 1 hour.if the guys from amterdam read this then look after yourselfs from adi and shane
Hi adi and shane i,m sorry that i respond a little late but now i have a moment of time.
Yes it was a great moment again and the signals of both of you were fantastic.
By the way we chris and jaap both are using a kenwood radio the 707 with an alan dualband antenne.
Only the antenne of chris is much more higher then the antenne of me.
73's and i hope we speak eighother again
Jaap
I never thought to ask what radios they were using !!!
Anyway, it is still a long distance contact, and I think that the fact that MY pmr446 transmissions were received in the Netherlands means that it would be possible for a 2 way "Genuine" PMR446 contact over that distance. (For now I'll be happy with a one way distance record)
Next time I'll ask then to use standard PMR446 radios !
Their receive capability with a dual band antenna and amateur rig may well be better than the best 446 so far, so I don't think it can even count it as a one way record, technically. Don't get me wrong, I was really happy for you, and I'm sure you'll make it again soon, but I believe that the records should be on genuine 446s both ends. 73
I understand what he is saying but in reality you HAVE made the longest contact ever on PMR446. It would have been better if the other stations were using standard radios but it is undoubtedly an amazing achievement to get a 500mw signal to travel over such a vast distance and I’m sure that you would still have made the contact if they had been using normal radios from a good location.
In my experience you can often get a better receive signal with a handheld at the top of a hill than what you get on a home base station in your house.
Jealous? Which part of "Don't get me wrong, I was really happy for you, and I'm sure you'll make it again soon, but I believe that the records should be on genuine 446s both ends" don't you understand?
If it's not a proper 446 each end, you may as well count it as ham radio, out of band.
I'm NOT jealous! If it HAD been 446 both ends, I wouldn't quibble at all. I just think we need a level playing field, honesty, and integrity - which Delboy seems to agree with! Otherwise we might as well all use 100W and beams, and what's the point?
Come on lads, its cracking dx by any standards isn't it? How many people use unmodified 446MHz (67cm) rigs anyway? Loads of people I know have all modified them with longer antennas, base station setups and so on. Sooner or later the so-called 'level playing field' is going to change and all sorts of records are going to be set whether we like it or not.
Let's not be pedantic and nit-picky and give the bloke credit for an excellent achievement.
NOT picky, but if it's not standard PMR446 then it ISNT PMR446, it's just "any old radio transmitter on 446 channels". Would you like it if I fired up an amateur rig with 100W and a beam, and worked 100s of miles to all nearby countries, claiming all firsts and records along the way? Would that be fair? NO. Keep it standard and we've all got that lovely fair "level playing field". It's more interesting, friendly and challenging that way. 73.
The best way to work some DX is get you, your radio
and some spare batteries to the highest point you can find. I've worked into europe with a hand held radio
(running 5 Watts mind you) on the 70cms amateur band
from a car park that was about 1200ft high. The mode
of propagation was tropo ducting across the north sea.
There is an other amateur who lives near the bottom of
the same hill and he wasn't hearing a lot of the
stations I was with his base radio and a beam.
Height really does make all the difference.
Looks like us up here in Scotland are in with a good
chance of working the best DX, if anyone can be bothered
to climb a mountain
Give it a rest. Yes it is being pedantic. Run 100W if you want, by all means if you have the capability. We'll judge for ourselves whether it'll be a record of any sort won't we?
But as far as 'normal' 446MHz operation (if there is such a thing) then 500mW to a 2W handheld over a 335 mile path is neither here nor there it? It's a worthy achievement all the same as far as most of us are concerned and that's all that matters.
Keep up the good work all you 446'ers.
73 from GW-land,
Welsh Warrior
If you use 100W it IS NOT PMR446, it's just 'radio.' using a frequency at 446MHz. I'd hate to have to play any sport against you, you'd make up the rules as you went along! I guess I'd better not mention football, bwah hahahahahaha
PMR446 ONLY INCLUDES legal unmodified PMR446 handhelds. Anything else doesn't count.
Thanks for not mentioning football, it is very much appreciated. Good luck to your team for the Rugby World Cup on Saturday by the way, see how tolerant, well-meaning and friendly us Welsh Australians are?
Well I've got a cousin living in Oz, so I guess that makes me Australian enough to support them eh?
The document referred to seems to be very specific about outlawing the use of mobile phone type devices when mobile, but, if I read it right, carefully excludes two way radios that work an any other frequencies. So use of a mobile with a hands-free may become illegal, but in-hand use of a PMR446 walkie talkie will not...?
Presumably we will not see PC Plod prosecuted by his mates, when he smashes his Panda into another car because he was relaying a stolen-vehicle index-mark to control, via his fist-mike, then?
That should make the chap who was prosecuted for eating a Kit-Kat bar (while stationary at traffic-lights...)a WHOLE lot happier.
Apologies - a bit off topic, but I couldn't restrain myself.
Sorry to tell you grahamG if you get caught even holding a 2 way radio you will be busted, as they will do you for not having FULL control of your vehical
all 2 way radio and mobile phones MUST be hands free
The RSGB are recommending that you carry a copy of the new regulations in your car as YOU ARE ALLOWED to operate radio equipment whilst driving. If stopped by the police they say that you should show them and politely explain that you can do this.
BUT as correctly pointed out YOU MUST be considered in FULL CONTROL of your vehicle at the time in order to avoid prosecution !
Basically yes that is correct, unless you are changing gear or using indicators or any other funtion that operates the car, excluding the car radio as that does not function the operation of the car. but we all know that people never usually have two hands on the wheel, i am no exception
Gents, the hmso.gov paper ( http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2003/20032695.htm ) is clear in this respect….
" Mobile telephones
(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a road if he is using –
a) hand-held mobile telephone; or
b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4).
(2) No person shall cause or permit any other person to drive a motor vehicle on a road while that other person is using –
a) a hand-held mobile telephone; or
b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4).
(3) No person shall supervise a holder of a provisional licence if the person supervising is using -
a) a hand-held mobile telephone; or
b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4),
at a time when the provisional licence holder is driving a motor vehicle on a road.
(4) A device referred to in paragraphs (1)(b), (2)(b) and (3)(b) is a device, other than a two-way radio, which performs an interactive communication function by transmitting and receiving data.
6 (d) "two-way radio" means any wireless telegraphy apparatus which is designed or adapted -
(i) for the purpose of transmitting and receiving spoken messages; and
(ii) to operate on any frequency other than 880 MHz to 915 MHz, 925 MHz to 960 MHz, 1710 MHz to 1785 MHz, 1805 MHz to 1880 MHz, 1900 MHz to 1980 MHz or 2110 MHz to 2170 MHz.
(doh! i.e. all of the mobile phone bands !).
So you see, PC Plod will not in fact be nicked by his mates… and neither will anyone else – unless they are nickable for another offence – such as dangerous driving or driving without due care and attention. At present there is no offence of “driving whilst using a two-way radio”. Of course if you are behaving like an idiot, or they are intent on nicking you anyway, no matter what, then they will find another charge with which to haul you up before the beak.
........ I have seen quite a few cars driven by disabled people who are using a knob on the steering wheel to facilitate one handed steering. Are they considered to be 'not in full control of their vehicle, I wonder?
I also know quite a few 'knobs' who are not in full control of their vehicle EVER, even with both hands on the wheel!
Unfortunately 'ability' and 'skill' do feature in the equation used to compute the degree of control. If one-handed operation = 'not in control' then (as another poster has already mentioned) the manual gear-shift car is destined for early retirement!
Hmmmmm. I don't think so somehow.
Regards to all. Be safe.
Sold as a "range extender" Knights CB radio shop are selling a box that re-transmits your voice over a wide range... price is £65 pounds ish, but will work on any hand held with the right fitting i.e a 2 mtr or 446 handie Phone them for more details or check out their web-site / Newsletter.
guess 10 KM is the range.
Ideal for small towns / villages ohh and blocks of flats....
, but not jealous and very proud of Delboy!