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the FAA will be investigating Mt. Vernon IL low-flying helicopters soon...

December 16 2003 at 11:36 AM
Johnny Bob  (Login jbob)
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the FAA will be investigating Mt. Vernon, Illinois low-flying helicopters soon...

I've received advance notice from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), Springfield IL office, that they will be conducting an investigation of Mt. Vernon, Illinois low-flying helicopters early next year (2004). The exact date(s) and details remain to be finalized. I will try to make sure they are made public, here and/or elsewhere.

The results of this FAA investigation could affect the noise pollution levels and public safety in Mt. Vernon, Illinois and this area of Southern Illinois for a long time into the future. So if you have any issues with these helicopters such as noise, safety, or whatever, now is the time to get involved. At least make your view known by sending it to the FAA investigator. FAA will be conducting personal interviews, and they may want to interview you. There may also be public meetings you can attend, if that's your cup of tea.

I'm not sure how much advance notice will be possible. It could all happen in early January 2004. Or it might not be until next spring (March-June). If you're interested, let me know, and I'll put you in the info-loop.

JB

 
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the FAA regulations, and some pregnant questions...

December 18 2003, 2:13 PM 

[I've posed a few pregnant questions at the end of this post. It should be obvious, but let me make clear that I'm not an attorney.]

I'm starting to read the FAA regulations, trying to answer some of my own questions, in preparation for the upcoming FAA investigation into my helicopter noise complaint. Perhaps this research would be useful to others, so FYI, here are some relevant links & info I've found...

the FAA Regulations:
http://www2.faa.gov/avr/arm/index.cfm

the electronic code of FAA regulations:
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/cfrhtml_00/Title_14/14tab_00.html

Overview: FAA is a division of the U.S. Dept. of Transportation. It is the regulatory entity under Title 14, Chapter I, Aeronautics and Space. FAA's regulations under Chapter I are divided into subchapters A-N:

SUBCHAPTER A--DEFINITIONS
SUBCHAPTER B--PROCEDURAL RULES
SUBCHAPTER C--AIRCRAFT
SUBCHAPTER D--AIRMEN
SUBCHAPTER E--AIRSPACE
SUBCHAPTER F--AIR TRAFFIC AND GENERAL OPERATING RULES
SUBCHAPTER G--AIR CARRIERS AND OPERATORS FOR COMPENSATION OR HIRE: CERTIFICATION AND OPERATIONS
SUBCHAPTER H--SCHOOLS AND OTHER CERTIFICATED AGENCIES
SUBCHAPTER I--AIRPORTS
SUBCHAPTER J--NAVIGATIONAL FACILITIES
SUBCHAPTER K--ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS
SUBCHAPTER N--WAR RISK INSURANCE

They are indexed for easier online access as Part numbers (electronic code numbers 1-193), irrespective of their subchapter headings. So it should be possible to make reference to a particular regulation simply by quoting a Part#.

Here's a further breakdown of the subchapters A-N (my plain text reformat of the online sites) under Title 14--Aeronautics and Space: CHAPTER I--FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

SUBCHAPTER A--DEFINITIONS
Part 1 - Definitions and abbreviations

SUBCHAPTER B--PROCEDURAL RULES
Part 11 - General rulemaking procedures
Part 13 - Investigative and enforcement procedures
Part 14 - Rules implementing the Equal Access to Justice Act of 1980
Part 15 - Administrative claims under Federal Tort Claims Act
Part 16 - Rules of practice for Federally-assisted airport enforcement proceedings.
Part 17 - Procedures for protests and contracts disputes

SUBCHAPTER C--AIRCRAFT
Part 21 - Certification procedures for products and parts
Part 23 - Airworthiness standards: Normal, utility, acrobatic, and commuter category airplanes
Part 25 - Airworthiness standards: Transport category airplanes
Part 27 - Airworthiness standards: Normal category rotorcraft
Part 29 - Airworthiness standards: Transport category rotorcraft
Part 31 - Airworthiness standards: Manned free balloons
Part 33 - Airworthiness standards: Aircraft engines
Part 34 - Fuel venting and exhaust emission requirements for turbine engine powered airplanes
Part 35 - Airworthiness standards: Propellers
Part 36 - Noise standards: Aircraft type and airworthiness certification
Part 39 - Airworthiness directives
Part 43 - Maintenance, preventive maintenance, rebuilding, and alteration
Part 45 - Identification and registration marking
Part 47 - Aircraft registration
Part 49 - Recording of aircraft titles and security documents
Parts 50-59 - [Reserved]

SUBCHAPTER D--AIRMEN
Part 60 - [Reserved]
Part 61 - Certification: Pilots, flight instructors, and ground instructors
Part 63 - Certification: Flight crewmembers other than pilots
Part 65 - Certification: Airmen other than flight crewmembers
Part 67 - Medical standards and certification

SUBCHAPTER E--AIRSPACE
Part 71 - Designation of class A, class B, class C, class D, and class E airspace areas; airways; routes; and reporting points
Part 73 - Special use airspace
Part 75 - [Reserved]
Part 77 - Objects affecting navigable airspace

SUBCHAPTER F--AIR TRAFFIC AND GENERAL OPERATING RULES
Part 91 - General operating and flight rules
Part 93 - Special air traffic rules
Part 95 - IFR altitudes
Part 97 - Standard instrument approach procedures
Part 99 - Security control of air traffic
Part 101 - Moored balloons, kites, unmanned rockets and unmanned free balloons
Part 103 - Ultralight vehicles
Part 105 - Parachute Operations

SUBCHAPTER G--AIR CARRIERS AND OPERATORS FOR COMPENSATION OR HIRE:
CERTIFICATION AND OPERATIONS
Part 119 - Certification: Air carriers and commercial operators
Part 121 - Operating requirements: Domestic, flag, and supplemental operations
Part 125 - Certification and operations: Airplanes having a seating capacity of 20 or more passengers or a maximum payload capacity of 6,000 pounds or more; and rules governing persons on board such aircraft
Part 129 - Operations: Foreign air carriers and foreign operators of U.S.-registered aircraft engaged in common carriage
Part 133 - Rotorcraft external-load operations
Part 135 - Operating requirements: Commuter and on demand operations and rules governing persons on board such aircraft
Part 136 - National parks air tour management
Part 137 - Agricultural aircraft operations
Part 139 - Certification and operations: Land airports serving certain air carriers

SUBCHAPTER H--SCHOOLS AND OTHER CERTIFICATED AGENCIES
Part 140 - [Reserved]
Part 141 - Pilot schools
Part 142 - Training centers
Part 143 - [Reserved]
Part 145 - Repair stations
Part 147 - Aviation maintenance technician schools

SUBCHAPTER I--AIRPORTS
Part 150 - Airport noise compatibility planning
Part 151 - Federal aid to airports
Part 152 - Airport aid program
Part 155 - Release of airport property from surplus property disposal restrictions
Part 156 - State block grant pilot program
Part 157 - Notice of construction, alteration, activation, and deactivation of airports
Part 158 - Passenger facility charges (PFC's)
Part 161 - Notice and approval of airport noise and access restrictions
Part 169 - Expenditure of Federal funds for nonmilitary airports or air navigation facilities thereon

SUBCHAPTER J--NAVIGATIONAL FACILITIES
Part 170 - Establishment and discontinuance criteria for air traffic control services and navigational facilities
Part 171 - Non-Federal navigation facilities

SUBCHAPTER K--ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS
Part 183 - Representatives of the Administrator
Part 185 - Testimony by employees and production of records in legal proceedings, and service of legal process and pleadings
Part 187 - Fees
Part 189 - Use of Federal Aviation Administration communications system
Part 193 - Protection of voluntarily submitted information

SUBCHAPTER N--WAR RISK INSURANCE
Part 198 - Aviation insurance

That is not the lowest level breakdown, but it gives a general idea where to look for something.

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Some pregnant questions.....

--From what I'm reading in some online sources, FAA does not enforce its own regulations very well, particularly re noise mitigation. True or false?

--After FAA makes an investigation then issues a ruling, do they enforce the ruling themselves, or does some other government entity perform that task? If the latter, who?

--Does FAA actually monitor aircraft itself, or do they require somebody else to monitor them to prove that a FAA regulation has been violated? If the latter, who?

--Obviously there is radar monitoring aircraft around the big airports that use air traffic controllers. But how does a small local airport without radar monitor aircraft and tell them when/where to land?

--Who administers heliports and monitors helicopter traffic (if anybody)?

--Is there a list somewhere of helicopter noise complaints that caused a FAA hearing/investigation, and FAA's rulings in those cases?

Johnny Bob

 
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Johnny Bob
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FAA schedule now confirmed for January 14, 2004

December 29 2003, 9:22 AM 

It appears that the FAA scheduling is now confirmed for January 14, 2004. That's the day when they'll be here in Mt. Vernon. Possibly it could shift, or there could be more than one day, so the best bet is to contact them directly at:

William L. Cooley, Principal Operations Inspector
U.S. Dept. of Transportation, Federal Aviation Administration, Flight Standards District Office
Capital Airport
1250 North Airport Drive, Suite 1
Springfield, IL 62707-8417
(217) 744-1910, Fax (217) 744-1947

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A Videotape of the Low-Flying Helicopters in Mt. Vernon, IL Is Now Available...

January 7 2004, 3:46 AM 

A two hour VHS videotape of low-flying helicopters buzzing our home here in Mt. Vernon, Illinois is now available. If you want a copy, send me an email including your name, title, mailing address, phone, email address, and the reason why you would like to have a copy of the videotape. They may be free on request to certain interested persons, while others may be asked to help offset my costs.

If you like noise, you should love this videotape! That's what it's all about, I guess. If you don't like noise, you can always turn down the volume on your TV - unfortunately Mt. Vernon residents don't have that option in real life. It's pure hell & mayhem reigning down from the skies over Mt. Vernon, Illinois where anything goes...

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Helicopter complaint? Call FAA, Springfield IL, (217) 744-1910

January 16 2004, 6:47 PM 

The FAA was apparently here in Mt Vernon IL on February 13, not on their originally announced schedule (February 14), and I didn't hear about it until afterwards. I still haven't been notified in writing about any FAA findings or rulings that resulted, so can't comment at this point.

According to our local newspaper, folks with helicopter complaints are now invited to call FAA in Springfield IL at (217) 744-1910, Bill Cooley. I don't know if it will do any good, but it can't hurt.

More later, when I get the full details...
JB


 
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call immediately for best results...

January 21 2004, 1:57 PM 

For best results, call (217) 744-1910 immediately after a helicopter incident in the Mt Vernon IL area. I have preliminary indications that FAA-FSDO/Springfield-IL may act promptly in real time in response to complaints.

For example, if you call in a complaint at 1:00pm, the appropriate person(s) may be notified about the problem by 1:05pm. This is the age of rapid communications via email, telephone, & shortwave radio.

So it appears to be working, if you'll call...
JB

 
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(don't call that number!)

February 19 2004, 9:42 AM 

For historical reasons I'm not deleting that message or the info it contains, but that is no longer the proper number to call. I'll report back here if I can find an alternate number...
JB

 
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