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Re: The Sunwest Summer Slam Team Series date has moved
May 8 2008, 9:01 AM
...tell us all. How have YOU been bitten by this wolf? In fact, tell us all how ANYONE'S been bitten by the HT3 "wolf"! Punks like you are as ack-bassward as they come. Sell your boat and find something to do that you're good at. Go work for the Obama "cam-pain". Your abilities won't go to waste there. Liars like you will fit right in.
Stupid ass comments like your's will bring me out every time. Mission accomplished?
Three boats...Thirteen boats. It doesn't matter. Whatever size the field, Dave O. is committed to having a fun, fair event each and every time the Summer Slam Series shows up at the Park.
How do I know that? The above posters are no longer allowed to participate in HT3 events...so they won't be there to infuse their negativity.
Perhaps they will indulge us all here with "their" story as to why they can no longer compete with us (one of them has never competed with us in the first place...if the I.P. address is a match).
Ok here it is Dave D. I was thinking of fishing the new trail that Dave O. is advertising on this site and had a simple question. I thought that I could get a serious response from him due to the fact that he seems to handle him self as a professional when ever he posts on this site. I happen to know at least two other fisherman who fish the HT3 trails that have nothing bad to say about it. But I have come to the conclusion that I will not be joining due to the unprofesional manner inwhich you carry yoursself. I'm sure that I'm not the only one that feels this way and I'ts a shame that Dave O has to loose boats because of you.
Im lost here. somone asks above "why no mention of ht3" the next person says "a sheep in wolfs clothing' I guess because they feel that ht3 has been included in a group of other large trails that some don't really want down here. I guess they thought saying sun west without ht3 was hiding somthing.
Then logged in as punk eliminator rips the above posters and says they cant fish in the tournaments. Looking back at a thread from a few weeks ago called (calculators are good) the same person or i.p. as punk eliminator, is ripping ht3.after the post by ht3 mgt.(logged in as fsh2win)am i corect in assuming that. the post "I'm over it" It says "you lost 90% of your field and now you get humble" also logged in as D.D. ...who is this person in relation to Ht3???? Not only does this trail seem to have alot of problems, but very hostile too... Guess you'll have to look up my I.P. address and ban me also.
1st post...from Dave O. (the director for the Sunwest Summer Slam Series)...a benign post for informational purposes only.
2nd post...a sarcastic post hidden in innocence...see "confused". Why would anyone be "confused" unless they were trying to elicit a response? Dave's number is plainly written on his post...calling him would be the thing to do if you were TRULY interested in competing.
3rd post...??? possibly an accomplice to #2 poster...not sure at this point. But the comment itself bears the fact that the poster wasn't trying to be "nice".
4th poster...me. The commentary is directed firstly to the 3rd poster. Read it again Confused/Never will. Take the chip off your shoulder while you reread.
5th poster...a genuine post. The way they should be. Thanks Chris...and $120.00 / yes / ht3outdoors.com
6th post...this post provided me with a much clearer picture of the poster. His/her sarcasm in their 1st post(the 2nd overall) has now moved to what the real intent was in the first place. Anybody down there in the Park area "know" me? Any of you? The answer is no. You don't know me because I don't know you. Any of you. The fact that this poster has taken the time to research I.P. addresses shows me that they have an agenda. They were never going to fish with us in the first place. You readers should know that. As you don't know me...you may think it's all b.s. and I'm whining. Think what you need to. But I don't make unsolicited posts here, do I? I will continue to post rebuttal here or where ever I/we find it...if warranted.
7th post...yes, you are confused but I don't blame you. It's quite easy to become confused here with some of the posts and who is saying what. I am Dave D. from HT3 Outdoors. I am( for this thread) punkeliminator.acp as well. There have been numerous posts made by others with what appears to be the same I.P. address (someone else will explain how...I hope). I posted on the "calculators are good" thread as well as others.
I will ask you "Also Confused", don't all companies have their share of problems? Why should we be any different? Very hostile? No. Hostile? Yep. We are at this time forced to endure hostile lines of questioning. It will tend to bring out hostility in us as well. Look at your own last line...You don't really think we just look up I.P. addresses so we can "ban" them do you? I've never looked one up in my life and I don't know you and you don't know us but yet even you see fit to make a comment such as that because you want to fit in with the others more so than with HT3?
That's what's in the recipe for hostility. Come to an HT3 event and you tell me if we're hostile there! It's a little different when you experience it in person. There are folks here that are trying to keep you from HT3 so you will be more likely to follow their lead in forums such as this.
I never was. Pay no attention to I.P. addresses. There could be posts with the same addresses coming from different locations. Don't ask me how...but some have posted the parameters by which that can and does occur.
If it's circumstantial, so be it. If it's able to be done purposely, then you can see what their aim is as clearly as I do.
Their desire is to confuse you and have you believe what they profess. All without any merit.
But you should know that I am the Director for all Tours with HT3 so any post I make is to refute whatever is printed (if untrue).
Some folks have an easy time pretending that they have no desire to fish with us due to my "unprofessional" manor when just about all my posts are similar to this one. The underlying fact is that those negative posters can't or won't fish with us now due to their past actions or their anger over format and or policy changes that they didn't approve of. Everything HT3 has done in the past has reasoning behind it. Like all companies, some don't like that because it was their ox that was getting gored so to speak. They don't just move on...they hang on...
I am someone who will argue with a fence post as my parents would attest. I just never realized there were actually fence posts that I would be addressing later in life. No, I'm not referring to you as one of those fence posts. But you get my drift...?
A you like to put things in numerical order...
first you slam your own director and then say it wasn't you due to a mistake in i.p addresses. then you tell people they are not allowed to fish your tournaments via you i.d.ing them by there i.p.address.WOW!!!!!
second you must just figure every one on here is a George bush fan or a republican, How can a director in there right mind put somthing about a political candidate on a website such as this, assuming(you read it right)
assuming everyone thinks like you (or as you say in above thread Azz backwards like you.)UNBELIEVABLE!!! You my friend have no buissness on running anything, never mind somthing that involves any type of political
organization and believe me from what ive seen ht3 is political.
Third, yes you are hostile, very hostileand in the years ive been reading from this site, I have never seen anyone as hostile as you, even when peoples families were being attacked.Fourth and finally. What does mission accomplished mean? The only mission I see accomplished is the people who first posted not wanting ht3 down here and got you started posting are the only people i see that accomplished anything....Job well done.
You posted above as punkeliminator.." the above people are nolonger allowed to participate in ht3 events" then "Why don't you sell your boat and go to work for the obama campain" and just the title punkeliminator is hostile alone. So how are you lost? I'm sure everyone else understands what I'm saying. Yea three boats should be about right. Sure don't see anyone chimin' in sharing what a great guy you are on this site. Don't know doug, but i must say, he handles himself like a decent person on this site. must be more in it for you.
I use a poster name that fits the moment...and at that moment I was making an attempt to eliminate the punkish comments made by the first 2 posters. I don't post on sites such as this simply to be apologetic for the way some others may want to portray HT3. It seems that you and others think that nothing should ever be defended. I should only say I'm sorry for things that aren't so? That way evryone will "like" me?
I now have done something that I said earlier I've never done...I looked up your I.P. address mostly because of your obvious disdain for HT3 and / or me...and you don't know either HT3 or me. And in doing so I found that you post here as "unbelievable"..."native"..."I'm broke"..."I'm still broke"...so me posting with a name that sort of fits my mindset at the time is no different than you, is it?
I have found that you in particular are no fan of any trail that didn't get their start in your backyard, so at least I know that you have a greater dislike for HT3 than me personally...wanna go fishing sometime?
I guess I'll finish with me again asking someone like you why do you enjoy writing so much about how hostile I might be and never write about how hostile the post or posts that I am responding to are? Why is it acceptable to attack but not to defend?
And remember, before you try to lump HT3 in with all the other trails you might have "hostile" feelings toward...we have only had 2 events there (Holiday Park) and both of those were nothing less than successful as far as the fishermen were concerned.
do you think maybe your rong inassuming that we are all the same person?
why would you research somthing like an i.p. adress when you said that happened to you??? It,s been fun, I'm done.....
Techically, you are right. Those posts could have been from different people all the while using the same I.P. address. Sorry for that.
But I go by a few more "check points"...spelling, grammar and such. I'm not bashing or belittling you, but there are distinct patterns common in those posts.
But it's no big deal really! I still wonder how you ask a couple of questions (again to re-inforce your stance that I am "hostile") and then finish with "I'm done" all the while never bothering to address my question(s) about why it is okay to attack but not to defend? Why did you skip right over that one? And knowing that I would probably answer (as best I could) your "final" questions, you choose to be done with it?
I wish I could "be done with it"...but I never could just walk away. Now that truly is a fault of mine!
But why would you want us to be? You apparently have seen fit to look for the next post when either of us have answered the other and then you comment as though we've been wasting YOUR time...
Surely there are more than 5 teams down that way capable of thinking for themselves and not as easily swayed as you guys!
Surely the park water levels have gotten to a point where the fish catching will outweigh my posts!
By the way...can I correctly assume the 5 boat comment was yet another stab at HT3 ? Can I assume that? And if so...why was it made? You feel good after that one?
If you have a problem with me...that's okay. Let's address that, but leave HT3 and Dave O's attempt at bringing a low budget, fun- for-all affair out of the banter. It's that kind of smack talk that will keep me going. And teasing me, Dave O. or HT3 with your lack of desire to participate due to my defense of whatever is said here is sad...really.
We'll have an event with however many decide to fish...and it will be a good event. Not fishing because of this thread...means to me that you aren't on any winning fish...that's all.
Or you'd fish...or be a fool not to. Money is money.
But it is nice to see others were reading this thread besides just me and Unbelievable.