Few months ago i posted a message on here about video game violence and i want to thank P&T to make a show about it

But something new has opened in Germany and its not a good idea to do what they have in election in there senate witch is making a law witch will ban every Violent video game out there in Germany.
and to think that Germans were so tolerant about everything.

im not a German and i have no right to speak for them but i can have opinions at least about it
because if this law is passed its gonna make a terrible chain reaction as laws always do.

Im getting sick and tired of these people who think they can change things with laws and the fucking typical phrase "what about the children" witch is fucking stupid and lame because the idea of baning something to prevent things has never worked i mean fucking-A does nobody understand history any more
it has never worked to ban things, never ever.

Well lets wait and see if these Germans still have logic somewhere

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I just hope this episode of Bullshit doesn't forgo the real potential for video games to at least desensitize people to violence.

I wonder if there was this " desensitize " arguement back when there were public executions(at which people had PICNICS!)or when gladiators fought to the death for entertainment. I'm betting not. To me, that's like saying any Jew who lived through the Holocaust must certainly be desensitized to violence and suffering.

It's not video games, or movies, or the news showing blood and gore that desensitizes. It's the erosion of the basic idea of the individual. The collective mentality teaches that all are the same and no one is special. If all are the same it doesn't matter if this one gets shot, or that one gets raped....all are one and none of Them are Me. Respecting individuality opens the mind to understanding that your rights end where someone else's begin.

I wish we could stop responding to symptoms and start really attacking the roots.

Being desensitized to violence isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Yes, failure to freak out over murder does not mean you will start killing people.

Maybe Penn and Teller could do the show and explain how desensitization to violence can potentially be both good and bad. You know, like how any open minded and scientific individual should approach this subject.

I just fear attacking the talking points from strictly the "video games don't cause violence" end could leave the door wide open for those who deny that "religion causes violence and war" to gain a stronger argumentative foothold.

Is that what they really want to do with this show?

I once did some research for a paper about violent movies that might apply to this. A pair of economists recently completed a study that concluded that violent movies actually prevent violent crime by attracting would-be assailants and keeping them confined in alcohol-free environments.

Youre taking a lot of violent people off the streets and putting them inside movie theaters, said one of the authors of the study, Gordon Dahl, an economist at the University of California, San Diego. In the short run, if you take away violent movies, youre going to increase violent crime.

Again, dunno if this applies, but it's interesting.

I was unbelievable happy when I heard that they are going to do a Bullshit episode about violent videogames. I LOVE violent videogames myself but I get pissed off at people who say that the videogames make people violent. I've always liked violence in games and movies, I've been watching horror since I was 7! I'm not volent at all, rather the opposite. I'm a goddamn hippie! I don't even kill flies! When I watch violence in a game I KNOW that it is not real, I know that doing this for real is wrong and it doesn't trigger me at all to go out and do it. It calms me down accually because to me, violent videogames are my anger management.

The games and movies doesn't make the kids violent, shitty parenting does. If it says 18+ in a game, then it is 18+ for a reason! You don't give your 12-yeard-old a game like that. And I think you gotta have a talk with your kids about the difference between reality and fantasy. Because not all people can see the difference between those things, aspecially not kids.

I think it's stupid to have laws against violent games and movies. It is a videogame/movie, it is not real! Even the game Silent Hill was censored here in Europe because European laws says you can't kill children in a videogame (there was a monster that looked like a kid with a knife and they had to replace those monsters with other monsters). To this, I'd like to refer to Penn's Penn Says video about the rape game (link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ACSsUhFk7I ). And I repeat, it's a game, it is not real.

I'm over 18, I'm old enough to know the difference between right and wrong, I don't wanna suffer for what others does to other people.

I'm gonna go sleep with my teddybear now.

There's extreme violence in the Iliad but it hasn't been banned.

Good idea for the series to examine video games. Violence has been part of literature/theater/films since their beginnings. Violence is--though many resist the idea--a structural part of much regional American culture (e.g., the "red states" are statistically more violent than other areas).

My guess is that the attack on video games (here--I won't speculate on Germany) is in part generational conflict and partly springing from the evangelical right--they're opposed to imaginative activity in general I think: recall that they labeled the Harry Potter books satanic.

My take: excessive video game activity diverts from real life experience and could contribute to passivity and ADD in some. Violence, no. Sociopathy does not come from our entertainment choices.

For the record the most gratuitous violence I ever saw on screen was The Passion film. As far as I know it didn't lead to imitation crucifixions.

Final thought: perhaps video entertainment of all kinds is a crude prequel to future holographic entertainment technology. Some serious controversy there.