I ain't no physicist, or an engineer , or even a mechanic or technition: but I pushed a skateboard down a hill once, so I understand the second law of thermodynamics well enough to not get conned by this sort of thing. It never ceases to amaze me how otherwise educated people get suckered . I guess it's just like spiritualism, our disire to belive is more powerfull than logic.
Unfortuneatly, in the tidalwave of greenwwashing it's not just other people getting ripped off, our state and even federal govt. are considering spending huge gobs of money on energy systems, that people are currently doing time on fraud charges for.I came to this site because i was wandering if Penn n teller, or possibley randi were looking into this kind of thing.
It's a shame to say it but most americans are going to pay more attention to carnys than to physicist, saying there is no such thing as magic!
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They did recently appoint a nobel prize winning physicist as Obama's energy sec. So there's something there. PM is sadly one of those duckies you can never, ever sink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_perpetual_motion_machines

I think a lot of people get caught up in PM because it's like borrowing from the left hand side of the equation to make the right hand side work. You get the right hand side working and then notice the left hand side is now wacked. So you borrow from the right and make the left work again. But then you notice the right is now out of wack. Each time you think you've solved it but there just appears to be a new little kink that you'll iron out and it will all be good.

Certainly there are total scammers but I think a lot of people just get caught in this spiral.


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MY theory is that if you hook up a generator to the cat when it's purring, you'd probably get a current.

Not really free energy though, she eats like a hoover.