From Forza Italia newspaper. Tasmanian ORES dont meet the gold ore ore standards. There is a rising complaint among the italian mafia that Tasmanian gold ores are too dirty. These are complaints that the feline is abused. Fathers, uncles and neighbours are no good because the muslim faith permits numerous wives

Prejudice, ignorance and hatred at it's worst. You want any more proof Matt about the hatred towards Muslims. Above you have it.

Even though I ain't a muslim I rekon what ya said is pretty bloody harsh. Who gives a shit about people's religions, just let em' be. There probably ain't a god anywayz

The jerk who sent his message signed Komiti MAKEDINIJA  (no login) from IP address 203.17.62.11, is he Macedonian or just pretending to be one? His spelling is good--only two mistakes--and his syntax is twisted, but that could be intentional, he could be anyone, Italian, Iranian, Indian, American. As Aussie Chick well put it, his "pretty bloody harsh" lines are just what is necessary to turn everyone against Macedonian Slavs. Since I Like them, I will, with much regret, make him wash his mouth and censor him.

Well Matt, is seems that you are pretty sure that he was not Macedonian. As though there are no people that are filled with hatred. KLA may be terrorists, but you can be sure that Macedonians themselves are not exactly angels and they have too been burning Albanian villages, cafes and even killing civilians. KLA may be an excuse, but as in Kosovo, it does not always work. Especially when civilians get killed that don't have anything to do with terrorist acts.

Oh, so now the Macedonians are looting houses, murdering civilians, burning villages, raping women, just like the Serbs? Please, tell me how you came to know about this. This should be good for a laugh.

I have heard that Macedonian civilians were throwing rocks at Albanian-owned stores, but I had no clue that the Macedonian army was committing atrocities. In fact, the Macedonian police even arrested several Macedonian youths who had vandalized Albanian stores.

Hopefully, good old Nato will bomb those horrible Maks to stop them from killing/torturing/raping those innocent peace-loving Albanians.

Blaz, I did not say Makedinija wasn't a Mak--thanks Jatin for introducing me to this fine new term, now it's the Maks vs. the UCK. I said there was no evidence, and anyway I did not want to allow him, whatever he is, to give a bad name to Macedonians.

On the other hand, Jatin, I am afraid that Macedonian police have been as bad and brutal as American police. That's not surprising, since the United States have provided "anti terrorist training" to the Maks.
As for the government reaction to the pogroms in Skopje and Bitola, it is not sufficient to arrest several youths, you have to shoot a few, and make pogroms unfashionable.

I said that the Macedonians were not angels and that they too did burn Albanian property (which is a fact) and that during the shellings of Macedonian forces, civilians were killed, that hid in their houses. (also a fact) Everything else were your words, not mine.

KLA are terrorists, and I don't have any problems with Macedonia dealing with them. And Macedonia is not Kosovo, and the situation is not like it was in Kosovo, where there was sistematic killings of civilians, destruction of property and ethnic cleansing.

No, the Mak govt is 100% innocent, and the KLA is 100% at fault. Throwing rocks in store windows, beating Albanians, etc, was done by civilians, mostly students. NOT by the army. The police even arrested them which shows that they will have none of that.

I haven't heard of anyone dieing due to the army shelling, so I can't confirm or deny it unless you can give me a link where it says that. But civilian casualties are unavoidable when terrorists occupy a village, look at sri lanka, israel, chechnya, or even nato's bombing campaign of fry. In each of those cases there were civilians accidentally killed. I would place the blame for that entirely on the KLA.

Ok so you blame only KLA in Macedonia. Tell me, the situation in Israel, is it the same? Are Palestinians terrorists and killing innocent Israelis and the only one to blame, while all the killings by Israelis (of Palestinian children, civilians) are justified and considered as "proper measures" taken by the Israeli forces. I would really like to hear about it as well.

You're changing the subject, so I'll assume you're admitting that the Macedonians are completely innocent.

Re: Palestne

I read the middle east topics on FR but I never bother replying, because anyone who doesn't support Israel 100% gets labeled a Jew-hater or a Nazi. I have heard a lot about Palestinian civilians being killed (by accident of course) by Israeli soldiers. However, you can't compare Israel/Palestine with Macedonia (or Kosovo) and here's why:

Palestinians have been living in Palestine for hundreds of years. When Israel was created after WW2, many of them were forced to leave their homes and become refugees. Albanians in Macedonia, however, have NOT been living there for hundreds of years. They came there within the last 60-70 years, and now they claim that part of Macedonia belongs to them, for no other reason except that there are more Albanians in some parts of Macedonia than Macs.

Imagine this: You let a family into your house. They have kids, then more kids, until they outnumber you and your family 10 to 1. Now they say, "We outnumber you 10 to 1, so this is now our house, not yours". Would you agree with them and give them your house? Of course not. That is exactly what has happened both in Kosovo and Macedonia.

And please don't accuse me of wanting all Albanians out of Kosovo or Macedonia. If they want to live there peacefully, that's ok. What is NOT okay is if they want to rip away Kosovo or 1/3 of Macedonia and join it to Albania.

I am glad you cleared that out. I agree with most of what you said in your last post. It seems that sometimes you really can be reasonable and fair.:)

And I never said that Kosovo should be joined with Albania or that parts of Macedonia should be ripped away. But I do think that Albanians (being 90%of the population) do deserve all the rights (many of which they had until Milosevic took them) and the right to self-authonomy just as well. I don't see any reason why anyone could deny them that right.

That's the problem with democracy, one man one vote. If the house belongs to the residents in equal shares. and your brother has ten kids and you have two, the house will probably belong to his kids, not yours, unless
1. you kill most of them now.
2. you make a deal and split the inheritance, like he gets the house and you get the barn and fields.
3. you have a nice fight over who gets the house and in the course of it, you burn the house down.
Alternative 3 is the choice in Macedonia.

The Albanians have definitely lived in Macedonia for hundreds of years. Maybe the Albanians arrived a few hundred years after the Slavs, maybe they arrived one thousand years earlier. To argue now as to who came first is like arguing who came first to Palestine, Israelites or Philistines (Palestinians). There are two alternatives in Israel, there are two alternatives in Macedonia. It's land for peace or perpetual war. NATO leaders who rejected partition for Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Macedonia, chose war. By coincidence, they have notably profited from the wars they created.