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We poured the first block this morning at 8:30 and shook it out this afternoon at 1:00. Not bad. Had one misrun flaw that was welded while the metal was still warm. Once it is heat treated and cleaned up I will put the old yardstick to it and see if it needs any dimensional attention. I may have to use a tape measure for more accurate readings.
Would anyone care to see any pics?
I appologize for the ridiculous amount of time this has taken me to produce this simple part. I offer no excuses. This should have been done 6 months ago.
Tod
This message has been edited by 58custom from IP address 75.31.104.228 on Jan 26, 2008 7:30 AM This message has been edited by 427designer from IP address 75.24.45.55 on May 23, 2007 2:41 PM
I still haven't done the pic download thing. Anyone wanna help me with this? Last time I think I sent pics to Chris Kelly for download on his site. I don't remember for sure.
Tod
This message has been edited by 58custom from IP address 75.31.104.228 on Jan 26, 2008 7:30 AM
So, some time has passed since this initial sample was cast.
Has it been final machined, or been taken any farther?
Do you have any other pieces that have been finalized?
Excellent progress Tod. You're definitely bringing the grass root ambitions back into this industry. We can't wait to see alot of those blocks in our shop. Thinking about adding a steel building come winter just to house them.
This is just the first inning but you should be very proud of your accomplishments.
~Ty
TLI Racing Engines
13916 SH16
Medina, TX 78055
www.tliracing.com
Pictures are very nice the cleveland engine is reborn 35 years later .Let go racing with strong cleveland block. Back in the 70s pro stock time again . Nice talking to you, good work . Hope to see you and your block in Carile at the Ford Show good luck
Jim
was probably the result of being poured too cool. I was worried about that area going into the pour and wasn't "disappointed". Tomorrow I'll take some more pics of that area after welding and cutting off the risers.
As it sits in the pics, it weighs 130lbs. When the risers are gone, the waterjackets are added, and all of the machine stock is removed I'll bet the thing will weigh 85-90 lbs. Add in sleeves and main caps and you will be back up to 105-110 tops. The OEM caps and bolts weigh 15 lbs. Yeah, 100-110 lbs.
Everyone give the guys at Miller Castings a round of applause for all of their help on getting this sample done.
Tod
This message has been edited by 58custom from IP address 75.31.104.228 on Jan 26, 2008 7:31 AM This message has been edited by 427designer from IP address 75.24.45.55 on Jun 1, 2007 12:29 PM
A round of applause to Miller Aluminum and a standing O for you Tod. This is freaking awesome. If I can ever save the money, I'm definately getting one. The old Montego wont know how to act with an aluminun block in it.
1972 Montego GT 351 CJ/C6 auto
"It is our choices,....that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." Albus Dumbledore
As coupe3w said, you have nothing to apologize about. Without your involvement, this entire endeavor would have possibly never happened. We're all indebted to you for willingness to take a project like this on!
SP
Tod, I always had the faith as we had discussed last year. Been busy, have interview in Sandusky in Am. Have a question will talk to you later. Thanks for making the dream come true. ...Tim
Bruce Morris (Login BruceDM) Members 58.185.133.238
Long live the mighty Cleveland
May 24 2007, 1:21 AM
Fantastic Tod. I have been sitting on the fence watching the progress from Downunder. I will be getting myself one of these babies as soon as it is shaken down, to mount in an Ausy falcon.
The cheb guys will shit themselves!
All the best Tod, Thank you for reviving the Cleveland.
Impressive looking casting. Obviously can't tell from the pics how dimensionally correct it is but my assumption is that it is as good or better than an original.
Just wanted to say, nice job! Good clean, solid looking piece without any visible porosity or unmaneagable flashing. I'll be interested in hearing about how they machine out and blueprint.
Anonymous (Login sixtyeight) Members 216.139.125.127
Re: New Pix! Block Cleaned Up.
June 7 2007, 10:57 AM
I hate to be the one to play a sour note,but here it goes anyway. In the pics that show the main bearing webbing it seems as if the webbing is "factory looking". I can see that the pan rails have been filled in and that looks great,but should'nt the main webbing also be maxed out(filled in} for greater strenght also? The reason I say this is mainly because most aftermarket racing blocks have that area beefed up. ?????
Tod did recently mention that he had identified areas that he wants to add metal, but this is probably the time to bring it up. in this pic the webs look a little barelike the Ford blocks,
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the bulges for the main bolts and skeletonized stock webs always cause me cringe a little and wish for more meat in the webs.
"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm" ~ James Madison
So now that the casting is made what do you do next? Does it get heat treated or is it in some way "seasoned" before you do any machine work? Does it continue to move around for a while after being cast? Very interesting...
The block you see is heat treated and ready to be machined. I don't think the blocks move around enough in machining to do any harm since all of the finish work is specifically done to dial in the critical areas like the cam and crank. Next comes fixturing and programming. Then comes a builder who will prep it for building. Not very exciting, eh?
Tod
This message has been edited by 58custom from IP address 75.31.104.228 on Jan 26, 2008 7:31 AM
It's been ages since I have visited... I actually stopped in to copy the address for someone doing a 400 build on Ford Truck Enthusiasts website...
Is this for real? Someone is actually casting 'new' Cleveland blocks in both iron and aluminum???
Hold onto your bandwidth Batman... The visitors are coming!
(I am kinda infamous for hooking people up in the car world)
This forum will be spread over the globe, so I hope you are ready. You will be up to your eyeballs in money very soon, my friend! Good luck, and I'll be sure to watch the upgdates!
(just remember me when I bring you a few thousand customers, ok?
This is simply amazing, it sure is phenomenal what can be accomplished when talented people with the right tools and facilities put their mind to something.
Holy cow this is a quantum leap forward!
So - once you get a few of these machined and sonic checked -- what is your goal for maximum bore?
What alloy content was used for the castings?
I'm assuming that you will be machining to the stock specs for cam, lifter, crank line bore, cylinder bore - spacing, etc -- stock deck height or taller?
Looks a treat mate, great to see someone with the interest & enthusiasm to take something of this magnitude on. All the best with this venture and congratulations to you and all that have helped to get you this stage.
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