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opinions on carb for mild 400 mud/dirt racer

January 14 2012 at 10:26 AM
Thomas  (Login broncosaurus)
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Im looking to buy a new carb for my budget mud/dirt racer toy and would like to have some opinions. The vehicle is a 89 ranger long bed body adapted to a 79 f-150 4x4 chassis with 3.50 gears running a c-6 automatic with a 1800 stall converter running low range in the transfer case. Its got a 400 with stock bottom end, 4v closed chamber heads, offenhauser dual port intake, headers and stock ford ingnition. The cam is a lunati voodoo #62502 with 219/227 duration and .540/.552 lift. I was running a 600 holley vac secondary that run good but had a problem with the idle circuit so i tried a 670 holley truck avenger that my buddy had. The truck avenger felt stronger than the 600 but had gremlin that i couldn't get out. The max rpms the motor runs is 5000 where it shifts. The holley carb selector says a 600 is what a 400 needs that runs max 5000rpms. I am considering the holley 1850 600 vac secondary and the holley 3310 750 vac secondary. I want good throttle response out of the hole but is the 750 too much carb for what im doing? The races are 150ft length track at wide open throttle. Thanks for your opinions.

 
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The Avenger carbs are gremlins....

January 14 2012, 1:06 PM 

I do a lot of work for Cobra replica owners. Some of them buy Roush engines which come with Holley Street Avenger carbs. I get numerous emails and phone calls from guys trying to "fix" them.

For your setup, I would do a 750 vac secondary. I get excellent results from Quick Fuel and I would recommend one of their HR series carbs.

Brent Lykins
B2 Motorsports, LLC







 
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Thomas
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I was leaning toward the 750

January 15 2012, 6:37 PM 

Yeah i was thinking the 600 mite be leaving some power on the table and was leaning toward a 750. By the way, whats the deal with the avenger series carbs? I have read lots of bad stuff on the internet about the truck avenger carbs. Thanks for your input.

 
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QC and calibration....

January 15 2012, 6:53 PM 

Most of the complaints that I get follow along the same lines as the complaints I used to get about Demons....trash in the bowls, orifices not drilled through all the way, missing parts, etc.

I've sent several custom built Quick Fuel carbs as replacements to the Avengers and the owners say that it's a night/day difference in performance.

Brent Lykins
B2 Motorsports, LLC







 
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Intake and carb

January 16 2012, 7:21 PM 

I would use a Holley 750 HP Double Pumper. You would be better off using the old Holley Street Dominator intake with your combo.
Andy

 
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Thomas
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Re: Intake and carb

January 16 2012, 9:30 PM 

I do have a demon 750 dp carb on another engine i have that i could swap onto it as a test. But i still got to get a carb so i have one on each engine. I also have a 351m/400 street dominator intake setting on the shelf. I am using the 400 offenhauser dual port because it covers the 4v ports with a standard gasket. Believe it or not but the out of the hole velocity of the offenhauser dual port with 2v ports on the 4v heads is phenomenal. I have run the street dominator on a set of 2v heads before and it ran good but i doubt it would out torque the dual port intake from idle to my 5000 shift point.

 
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under 5k rpm

January 17 2012, 2:43 AM 

i don't think you can do better than the Dual Port

but for a race application i'd run at least a 650DP and probably no more than a 750DP

total mismatch but i mounted a Predator carb on a Dual Port and the throttle response was like EFI

there'll be phantoms, there'll be fires on the road... and the white man dancing

 
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Barry Grant or QFT

January 23 2012, 8:42 PM 

Barry Grant #1282010VFE if you can find one

Quick Fuel SS-680-VS or Q-650-PV

rock and roll

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Thomas
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Bought the 3310 holley

January 24 2012, 9:48 PM 

Went ahead and bought a new 3310 holley. It seemed to be the best buy and fit for my project. I do have the 750 demon double pumper i can swap onto it from another motor if need be.

 
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