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Tried a speed bleeder on my slave clutch installation today.

May 5 2008 at 4:54 PM
 

It worked great. I didn't know if there would be enough pressure to pop the bleeder spring but did it ever work good. There was still enough fluid left from last fall as I used the last few shifts to baby it home.

Everything went great and as I pumped and refilled the pot about five times to flush all the old fluid out I run the pot dry. Duh,,, but here's a possible best of I've been wanting to try this for some time. I pumped fast and slow but could not get it to flow again.

I UNBOLTED THE POT LIFTED IT UP TO THE WINSHIELD AND PUT IT IN A RAG, THE WIPER HELD IT SO THERE WAS NO CHANCE OF AN AIR LOCK BETWEEN THE POT AND THE MASTER CYLINDER. I STARTED TO PUMP AGAIN BY HAND AND IMMEDIATELY GOT IT FOLWING AGAIN. COULD THIS BE A MAJOR PROBLEM IN BLEEDING..... WELL ONLY ONE TIME BUT I REALLY THINK SO. I ASSUME THIS COULD ALSO BE TRUE FOR THE BRAKE SYSTEM. WELL WORTH CHECKING OUT.

I did buy a vacumn pump set up a few months ago but wanted to check this idea I had. I didn't use the vacumn at all.The problem could be because the hoses have to go over the air intake for the heater an ideal spot for an air lock.

 
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Vacuum Pump Sucks ...

May 5 2008, 6:28 PM 

If you mean to use a vacuum pump by applying a suction at the bleeding nipple. The problem there is that you can't get a good seal when you loosen the nipple, air seeps in around the gap from loosening the nipple. And don't use plumber's tape ... brake fluid turns it into a messy pulp in short order.

I've used a vacuum pump to help bleed ... just getting stuff started, but it wouldn't be helpful in creating an air-free system.


Jeff

 
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rick

I pumped fast and slow but could not get it to flow again.

May 5 2008, 6:42 PM 

I guess I've got a dirty mind

Where did you get your bleeder?
I'm ordering a clutch master, slave and hose tonight just discovered my master is leaking a bit.



Richard Shaw
82 x
Ontario, Canada

 
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I am not where he . .

May 5 2008, 7:24 PM 

got his bleeder, but you can try http://www.speedbleeder.com/

 
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interesting... thanks for the link

May 5 2008, 7:45 PM 

wasn't expecting that. I thought he was talking about one of them pressure pump thingys that gets hooked to the resevior.

Does the slave have the same size bleed screw as the brakes?

Richard Shaw
82 x
Ontario, Canada

 
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JimDecker

I bought my pressure bleeder from Bavarian Autosport

May 5 2008, 8:09 PM 

the cap is a perfect fit for the X reservoirs. It fits an 88 Fiero GT as well.



http://www.bavauto.com/

I believe IAP sells one also.

 
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ooou that sure looks like a great unit, from previous posts I knew

May 5 2008, 9:42 PM 

pressure was the way to go. I got the vacumn thing on sale as a what the heck, can't have enough tools, and since I live pretty much in the sticks here too much trouble to go looking.

 
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I just bought ...

May 6 2008, 6:29 AM 

The Motive European model on Ebay ...

http://tinyurl.com/5o49eo

Seems like the price had gone up since I last looked at this.


Jeff

 
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Re: I just bought ...

May 6 2008, 9:23 AM 

That price doesn't seem too bad. I think I paid ~$45 about 5-6 years ago. (or I really got taken to the cleaners)

 
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Right ... but the "list price ...

May 6 2008, 9:28 AM 

is now $49.95 and a "black label" version for $69.95 ... seemed like some of the eBay listings got a bit pricey with shipping.

Jeff

 
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Damonfg

yes, same size all around, M8x1.25 (nt)

May 5 2008, 8:51 PM 

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Yes Rick , goes in a little tight as there is a sealer on the treads, it is almost

May 5 2008, 9:35 PM 

the same size as a regular bleeder (a little longer) but has a one way valve in it and that's why you can open it a 1/2 turn and just keep pumping without closing each time.As long as the master isn't dry. Need to fill the clutch pot about every 7 strokes. and I'd say about 50 strokes or so will flush it all out. So if your alone that's 43 times ya don't have to get in/out of the car.

 
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Tim ,now that I see the url that is on the card it came in.

May 5 2008, 9:24 PM 

,,,

 
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Oups no pun intended Rick (strokes) I got the bleeders on e-bay searched for

May 5 2008, 9:21 PM 

speed bleeders. I think the total came to $ 33.00 mail included. Not bad as I also wanted to try it on the clutch, and also have the 79 X also. Once it is bleed the regular bleeder could be put back in and one pump would finish it off. I could also try it on the Miata and taurus,(if it fits) so well worth the price.


    
This message has been edited by theloon6 on May 5, 2008 9:44 PM


 
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Rick , that price was for 4 bleeders,,,,2/pack.....NT

May 5 2008, 9:56 PM 

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clutch slave bleeding

May 6 2008, 7:44 AM 

I had a terrible time getting this done, with a new master and new slave and a new slave hose and a new reservoir and new cloth-covered brake hoses and speed bleeders and vacuum bleeding and pressure bleeding and a helper.

I must have used a quart of brake fluid.

What FINALLY worked was allowing the piston on the slave to extend as much as I dared without it popping out by loosening the adjustment rod, then bleeding by pumping the pedal through the speed bleeder, then pushing the piston back into the slave with the speed bleeder open, then closing the bleeder, then adjusting to the correct piston throw and bleeding by pumping one last time.

I think the slave traps an air bubble that's hard to get out no matter how much fluid flows through the slave.

MikeR '86 Bertone

 
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rick

I was a bit worried

May 6 2008, 8:38 AM 

cause all the talk was just about bleeding the slave. I will be changing the works. I will look for some speed bleeders because I think they will definitely help.

You think the pressure thingy is a must when bleeding after changing all the components?

 
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