I have mixed information about the GT-40 kit price. What is the price for a complete kit less engine? or what is the price for a rolling chassis? It seems like the price is kindda high. what do u think?
david
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whick kit are you talking about and what does it include? if the kit is the one that is about 45k plus engine and tranny i think that is a bargain. you would have a GT40 for about 60k. an ERA is about twice that much after you are done. the kit alone is about 50k without options and there is a huge waiting list.
a FFR style GT40 would be great, cheap(somewhat), easy to build and you build it your way. if you want to be a purist and do it all original style or put 17 inch wheels(like the cobra "R's"), a leather steering wheel, A/C and a radio or whatever makes you happy
my car will have all the comodities(A/C, radio, cruise, etc) and the technology(17" wheels,brembo brakes,13" rotors, FR steering rack, fuel injection, etc) so it will look like the original thing but with a few little mods here and there to acomodate my personal taste
of course this is my personal opinion and others may think differently. my kit was much less than that and i will probably end up not having too much into it because i'm in the automotive industry and i can make parts myself or buy them at a cheaper price. also it will take my about 2 or 3 years to complete the car because it is still very expensive to build any GT40.
again, just my .02
luis
www.hotshotusa.net
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I went on the website and notice DBR GT40 for $17,500 AUD. It said body/chassis. What about the rest? i.e. daskboard and little things here and there....... I think i can put a car together if everything is there, but not fabrication.....
david
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Yes, they are expensive. If you feel more comfortable putting together a car with all the pieces in front of you, then that's what you should strive for, but keep in mind it won't be cheap. At the very least you should look for everything less the engine and transaxle. Also with the exception of ERA and Sabre, the cars will need to be shipped to you from overseas. This is not cheap. Figure about $4 to $5 thousand. Ron could help you with that as he just had one shipped from Australia.
Now for the good news. The New Zealand and Australian dollar is much lower than the U.S. dollar. For example the New Zealand replica is going for about $30,000 New Zealand or $12,000 U.S. You get quite a bit of parts for that price. Add shipping to that price. I think that RF is about $30,000 for their rolling chassis, that's about $15,000 U.S. Again add shipping costs.
If ordering from the UK it works out to about 2 to one. For example 1 pound is about $2 U.S. No real bargain. You get your best "bang for your buck" it would appear from New Zealand or Australia.
Also the South African rand is a good bargain, but I have tried to deal with South Africa on two occassions and no one seems to get back to me.
The most important thing is to make sure you have enough money to finish the car after you start. It will be frustrating having to hold off until you can afford to replenish your parts list.
I'm not suggesting that the foreign replicas are better, only less expensive due to their economic and geographic situation. If money were no object, I would certainly opt for an ERA or Sabre.
Hope the above helps
Paul Campoli
Toronto, Canada
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My impression is that a complete parts assemblage from RF is much more expensive that you indicate ... over $30 USD delivered. Rom can certainly help with a contact to the US agent for RF.
I believe Sabre's complete kit is on the order of $36K and that ERA's is on the order of $50K with a two year wait for delivery.
John Donnelly at Sabre has indicated that he's trying to focus on a new version of the Mark III that will meet the newer requirements of the European market including some alternative to the clam shell arrangement of the clips. Kind of a shame as I really like his chassis and suspension design ... very light, yet very strong. If I were going to pop $>30K on the complete RF kit, I'd sure call Sabre and investigate them too.
ANY GT40 is not an FFR kit ... its a lot more complicated to build, and a lot more unusual parts to find and understand.
mike starling
FFR 1667
Sabre GT40 6210
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I turn my back for one second and the the prices go up. I notice that RF uped their chassis and body kit to $19,500 AUD or about $9,000 U.S. and their rolling chassis to $32,500 AUD or about $16,000 U.S.
In my previous post I only talk about the rolling chassis and not the whole package of parts. I still think parts outside of the rolling chassis can be obtained in North America a lot cheaper. That still doesn't include shipping.
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Paul Campoli
Toronto, Canada
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Log onto www.roaringforties.com.au which is the RF website. Click on products and there you will get a description of what you get with a rolling chassis or body and chassis combination. The items described are similar with other manufacturers. In summary GT40 replicas are expensive.
If you can do most of the work yourself or have someone that can help, you can look for a second hand KVA or similar and save a lot of money. At that I still spent about $6,000 Cdn for outside help such as welding and fabrication and still needed about another $4,000 Cdn of outside help. Even at that it still adds up. At best my KVA would have come in at about $30,000 U.S. completed all in. Thats not too bad and it would look just as authentic as the other replicas.
Just something to think about. Unfinished projects pop up now and then and some money can be saved by taking them over but you better be prepared to get some help. Even with the newer GT40's offering complete parts, you still may need proper tools and help with things like engine and transaxle mounting, linkages, cooling system, brakes, alignment, steering, and interior just to mention a few.
I don't think I would get too many arguments if I say that the GT40 is probably the most difficult replica to build. Spend lots of time researching and building the car in your head first. Look for alternative sources for parts locally which could save you a lot of money, and most importantly have someone ready to help just in case. I waited 2 years before taking the plunge, but I now know a lot more and feel more comfortable with the build than I did 2 years ago.
Paul Campoli
Toronto, Canada
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