Ok, what is everybody using and where did you get it? I looked at all the injection computers and have it narrowed down to Electromotive and Wolf. I haven't talked to anyone who sells both EM and Wolf but would like to. I priced out a Victor Jr modified for EFI($750) and the Holley 1000cfm 4 barrel TB ($600), Air cleaner ($100) and that set of Webbers on Ebay is looking better and better. Then another $125 on an EFI fuel pump....Is there a way to do this that costs less than the $4K motor? I can get the full EM system for $1600 with all sensors , coils, crank trigger and harnesses. The Wolf will run $1206 with only the ECT, MAP and ACT sensors. So tell me what you got,what it cost , where you got it and hurry, I get the motor next week!

Wayne,
I was intending on building my own system but I did
get a good deal from Robert so I bought. I did so only
if he would wire my electrical system with the new
Wolf system which I also purchased. If you plan on buying the components and building it yourself then
try these sites www.jenvey.com This site
sells components to all the builders because they manufacture them. Also www.twminduction.com is OK.
They have the higher prices but they have the fuel rails on the inside of the throttle bodies.
The other choice my be DC&O in Australia. With the
strengh of the dollar there you might do better.

Good Luck,
Hersh

Wayne,
I forgot that the manifold for this is also available
from Blue Thunder. The price is $450. You will have to
do the machine work to it.

Hersh

Hey Hershal, what's the web address for Blue Thunder?

Sorry Wayne, I don't know how I missed that.
The web site is www.bluethunderauto.com
I still have a stack injection manifold that I bought
from Hiborn for a 289. I was going to convert it to electronic injection. The neat thing about stack instead of weber type is there is only two linkage adjustments not four. Since I bought mine from Robert I
will put this on the back burner for later.

Hersh

Hey Wayne,

You might check out the new Edelbrock setup for SB Fords. Also the Canadians have come up with something... www.wmsracing.com

There's also a thread on this subject on clubcobra
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=77636&t=1991#post77636
Read my post there. I had to search around a bit to find a manifold for my app., a 2V head Cleveland. Finally found one in Syndey at www.injectionperfection.com
They also have some good looking throttle bodies. Great people to deal with.
Running an air filter was a definite for me since I plan to put lots of miles on the car (ERA GT). I settled on an ITG filter from TWM. ITG custom makes the filters for TWM using their steetable foam. It was a costly adder at $800.
The engine is set up for direct fired ignition with magnets embedded in the flywheel. Haltech has a neat setup that uses 4 magnets and a Hall switch. The "home" magnet is a north pole, the other 3, south poles. The home magnet is placed about 70 degrees BTDC to allow for timing advance. The Haltech ECU is slated to be purchased in Oct/Nov. Leave you know how it all works out.
Pictures of the engine at:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1603458&a=12227018

Dave

Do you like the Haltech? I hear it can be a pain to dial in and the software isn't very user friendly. What types of systems have you used?

Its pretty easy, really. Mostly graphical in nature. A bar graph type display is shown for a given rpm range. On the F3, the x axis of the graph is the engine vacuum (or pressure for turbo). The y axis is the ms injector open time. You simply watch the fuel/air meter to see if you're rich or lean as you drive around. The software will indicate what particular bar the engine is operating on. You adjust the height of the bar (ms injector opening time) to increase or decrease fuel. I haven't set one up yet for TPS only, but would suspect that throttle position would be on the x axis instead of vacuum.
You can download the software at www.haltech.com and run it in the off line mode. It runs in DOS mode under Windows.
I suggested Electomotive when I started the GT40 project, but the guys at Engine Management Systems (EMS)didn't want anything to do with it. They have used it before and said it is a math based system that took too much twiddling to set up. I have no experience with it, so can't say either way. I am quite satisified with the Haltech F3 on the VW though. No reason on my part not to go with the E6K for the GT40. It has all the functionality I need. One note about EMS, they do mostly all racing engines. I dealt with the owner, Dave Dalghren when I did the VW 10 years ago, and again last year when I started the GT40. He seems very knowledgable and is not bashfull about sharing experiences or opinions. I believe he also sells Motec ECU's, but I have no expeience with them. As I mentioned, Dave said the best way to set up a high HP engine is on a dyno where variable sustained engine loads can be applied. Dave said the FI and ignition maps can easily be set up in a day. We'll see how the money plays out! My wife has already nicknamed my car "Money Pit", and I don't even have it yet... although the engine, transaxle, and odds and ends have chewed up lots of dollar bills. My 2 year date is the end of December, this year. So, hopefully, I'll have sort of a late Christmas present.

Dave

Does Engine Management Systems have a web site or do yu have their phone # handy?

www.enginemanagementsystems.com
Can get you more contact info next week if you need it. It's at work but I'm on vacation this week....
Dave

Have a look at DC&O - they make a stunning injection system & have soted it out on one of our local GT40's (they are a distibutor for the DRB car here in Australia) :

www.dc-o.com.au

Good Luck Mate !!

Peter D.

As Hersh has suggested, have a look at DC&O in Australia - this system is stunning :

www.dc-o.com.au

Good Luck,

Peter Delaney

I have the same system as Hershel which is from Roaring Forties. This system is the D.C.&O. but heavily modified (improved). The stock system uses set screws for butterfly adjustments. The problem is that for fine tuning the screw want to go back where the previous indentation was. Roaring Froties has re-done the butterflys in a very slick way where fine adjustment is done with spring loaded allen heads that screw through stainless steel tabs. there is no set screw pinching into anything. Roaring Forties also supplies everything needed including three pumps all lines, injectors, fuel rails, sensors, Motec M48 computer and a special distributor made by Motec.

filters for the system are available from Inglese for about $120. Many people have told me that Motec is top of the line and it is sequntial on a V8. Haltech and many others are not. I have also heard good things about Wolf. Haltech is here in Dallas and I visited them and was not very impressed. Motec allows you to control many things. You can even hook up the traction control. Motec also controls your fans by sensing water temp in the block as opposed to sensing at the radiator.

Wayne, is your CAV's fuel system set up for fuel injection? You will need two low presure pumps and one high pressure pump plus a third fuel tank (swirl pot). The fuel lines are pretty complicated as well. Because of the emmission laws in Australia all RF GT40's are set up for fuel injection since they can't pass smog with carbs.

The CAV is set up for carbs, it already has 2 low pressure pumps and I am adding the surge tank and high pressure pump.

I believe you will also need a two way valve that works in conjunction with the pump selector switch. This is for the return of fuel to the tank that is being drawn from. Also check to see how the tanks are vented. RF uses two carbon canisters one for each main tank. Good luck and let us all know when you get it on the road.
Bob

Priced the kinsler setup, about 5k including all electrics.

www.kinsler.com

the twm looks the best in the states

has anyone done or heard of using webers and just gutting the floats etc. and putting an injector bung?