Oldtrekkie (Login oldtrekkie) from IP address 66.82.9.92
He was raised as a JW. He had such a great talent, but I one wonders what that early strict influence had on his later bizarre life. But his music was incredible....
As much as I have enjoyed his music and been entertained by his work ..... it's really just another person dying. As they say .... whether a king or a pawn ... at the end of the game they both go in the same box.
I don't really think MJ was raised a JW ..... if the family or a member or it perhaps once was ..... the fame and fortune would have derailed all that.
And that really is the key ..... can a person be successful and handle it all ?
I've often wondered if he truly was "raised" JW. Or perhaps the parents studied for a bit and the story grew from there. Maybe Mom Jackson was a JW but not a really good one. Even that seems suspect to me. Surely they would have been disfellowshipped for something. And one would think that maybe out of all those children one would be a JW today if they had actually truly been JWs. I don't know I just wonder.
There are a bunch of threads and some really old threads resurrected on jwn about MJ. Apparently he said he pioneered on Sundays and they had to disguise themselves to do it in CA. He said he envied the regular life he saw while in fs. If the reports/interviews are accurate.
So if he pioneered he had to be baptised. Why was he never disfellowshipped? They hardly led a "theocratic" lifestyle. Do you know how old he was when he pioneered? Touring, recording, etc. is, as reported by other performers, very demanding and time consuming. When did he find the time to pioneer? I don't know I still wonder.
What is JWN? I'd like to go there. Thanks
This message has been edited by Sheryllynn from IP address 173.27.30.154 on Jun 27, 2009 9:50 AM
You don't have to be baptized to auxiliary pioneer, do you? I don't think ya had to when I was a kid, or else my mom lied to me and I never was actually "pioneering" when i thought I was. LOL
Or, maybe MJ's mom was pioneering and taking him along, so as a kid, he was pioneering too? Just a thought.. could be the whole thing was made up. I do remember hearing a lot of stories about it though. The MJ stories oddly enough used to give me hope. If Michael Jackson could be a JW and make music, then maybe I could too.
I remember all the cool kids (har) did it one month during the summer and none of us were baptized at the time. What a ridculous waste of time that turned out to be.
If he said he "pioneered on sundays" he probably meant he went out in service on those days. And to mix up that phrase (thinking pioneering means knocking on doors) would mean he probably didn't go to meetings much, or wasn't all that involved.
I also think that the stories about him being a JW were hyped by JWs back in the day to make themselves feel better.
Yeah, remember how we could sniff out a hanger-on by their "misuse" of vocab?
They would always try to get us kids hepped up by telling us we could "vacation pioneer," but they meant we could peddle the magazines for hours every day without signing any application forms.
I don't think a guy that cut a Christmas Album with his brothers would make a good pioneer .... or even be granted pioneer status ..... A little too worldly I think ....
Studio album (Christmas) by The Jackson 5
Released October 15, 1970
Recorded 1970
Genre Bubblegum pop/soul
Length 34:13
Label Motown
MS 713
Producer The Corporation
Professional reviews
Allmusic link
The Jackson 5 chronology
Third Album
(1970) The Jackson 5 Christmas Album
(1970) Maybe Tomorrow
(1971)
The Jackson 5 Christmas Album was the only holiday album released by Motown family quintet The Jackson 5. Released in October, 1970, the album showcased the brothers' harmonies and vocals. Lead singer Michael Jackson is prominently featured on the album tracks. Included on the Christmas Album is the Jackson 5's hit single version of "Santa Claus Is Coming to Town". Rendered with a pop-soul feel, the Jackson 5's versions of "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" and "Santa Claus Is Coming to Town" remain frequent radio requests during the holiday season.
I googled "Michael Jackson Jehovahs Witness" and I got a bunch of blurbs here and there that referred to his being disfellowshipped, going in feild service etc. They were posts from JWs I think.
Editing because I just found out that my nephew died last night around 7 pm CST. I recieved a link from one of his cousins to a news article from late last night. If I knew how to post a hyperlink I'd do it.
I deleted my whining about moving. I close on my house on June 30th (Tues). I was supposed to go to Peshtigo (12 hr. drive) on Friday. I am trying to get enough boxes unpacked and out of the way so this place looks somewhat homey for the 2nd when my daughter and son-in-law arrive. I am not getting it done being on here but I am overwhelmed.
This message has been edited by Sheryllynn from IP address 173.27.30.154 on Jun 28, 2009 11:44 AM
I remember a mediaproduct called MJ.
I remember and notice stories, a legend so to speak.
My heart weeps thinking of high parental and public expectations, abuse.
I remember having trouble enjoying MJ-productions, feeling pain thinking of abuse.
I remember sleeping in a one room camper with a family, their youngest son sleeping next to me under the same blanket, me feeling confused.
I remember being three ... scared for myself or my parents being killed, disgust, anger, torn apart.
Sweet universe, I am part of you. You are my home and heaven. You hold me. Let me weep out my deepest guts.
Daredevil1975
- Who has told you, that you are anything but wonderful?
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