Last year, a guy I hadn't seen since I was in my very early 20's got in touch. He had been in a bad car accident, broken back, and I hadn't seen him since. We were never close friends, more like nodding friendly aquaintances, so the reuinion was ..ok, you know, didn't really know the guy. At any rate, the reason for the renewed contact was that he was trying to put together a reunion of all those party types from 25 years ago, which, he did. It was held this last summer, massively succesful and I declined to go.

As all this planning was taking place, I found myself on Rockys mailing list. At first, a couple of those goofy things people email and then, a letter extolling the heinous nature of Bill C-6 and urging me and everyone on the mailing list to rally to his cry to contact our MP's in an effort to thwart this travesty of our freedoms....

Oh my.

So this I ignored. For the record Bill C-6 is a bill that allows the same powers that your Homeland Securities guys got. The difference, is that these powers are modified and designed to be used ONLY by Health Canada, so that HC can take out and take down unsanitary manufacturing while its STILL unsanitary. As it stands, Health Canada has to give notice of inspection, which gives unsanitary manufacturers opportunity to pull a bait and switch. Bill C-6 is a good thing.

So, I ignore this. Yesterday however, I get an email from Rocky, all about the dangers of the H1N1 vaccination.

This is his letter - snip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=185HKE2c5Gg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Econsciousmedianetwork%2Ecom%2Fvideo%2F090509%2Ehtm&feature=player_embedded#t

HOPEFULLY THIS VIDEO WILL SHED a BRIGHT Neon Light on the topic of Swine Flu Vaccinations. Dr Rauni Kilde is well respected in the international community. Check her credentials out.

Formerly the Chief Medical Officer for Northern Finland with a Doctrate in Medicine from 1975 until a car accident in 1986.

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Ok, I google this gal, Wikipedia is my friend. She's a conspiracy theory nut..oh look I have a new font! She's one of the imbedded microchip control, UFO, population eradication types.

Ok, I know that Rockys emailing list is huge, so I wrote back.

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  Rocky, love ya dude, but sending out shit like this is irresponsible in the extreme.

This Kilde, is a fruitcake. Google her, she's a big advocate about microchip mind control and is thoroughly convinced that we have UFO visitors quite routinely. How do you spell NUTBAR? And further dude, all of that info is just a Wikipedia reference away. How would you feel if one of us refrained from getting our kids this vaccine because of watching this nefarious bullshit, and then one of them died from H1N1. Would that bother you?

I know you have a mailing list, send out a retraction man!

Happy Halloween, Randy.

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That said, today I receive this from Rocky, who it turns out is mighty upest that I questioned his gestalt.

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Letter is in next post, too big for this one!!

GOOD AM RANDY

 

Im sorry to inform you RANDY but you are a MINORITY THINKER and researcher.

I would suggest you first pull your head out of the sand dune and then take off your SIDE BLINDERS.

Have a READ!!  I truly hope everyone refrains from getting their Kids vaccinated

I also highly suggest that you inform yourself better about government mandates, especially NOW with Bill C-6 being fast-tracked through the Senate.

I am glad that you arent my father trying to poison me with a drug that has not even been clinically tested, till last frickin week on pregnant women.

You should pay more attention to international free- lance journalism. The H1N1 was created in a frickin US of A laboratory my friend.

You should take some interest in past historical events pertaining to vaccination programs. Lay your eyes on these STATS.

There is a war on our immune system. Vaccinations, GMO foods, the Codex Alimentariusguidelines that we will have to adopt the first of January 2010,

are all part of the Tsunami that will assist in depopulating the planet. At the time of CHRIST there were only 300 Million.

By the 1800s the worlds population doubled to 600 Million. We are presently at 6,780,270,650. That is only 210 years later RANDY.

Check the site out http://www.poodwaddle.com/clocks2.htm

      Far as your request to RETRACT. I DONT think so. Im sorry that I offended your Sicamous (SmallTown) mind.

BTW you passed up an AWSESOME reunion PARTA. People were asking. I told them what you told me.

Maybe next time. It would have been great to have you attend. It was a GRANDSLAM. To much LOVE in the Hall.

 

Hopefully I can make you a BELIEVER.

Your BROTHER from a different MOTHER

Keep in touch my friend!

 

Happy Halloween ROcky

 

 

 

 

HISTORICAL FACTS EXPOSING THE DANGERS AND INEFFECTIVENESS OF VACCINES

- In 1871-2, England, with 98% of the population aged between 2 and 50 vaccinated against smallpox, it experienced its worst ever smallpox outbreak with 45,000 deaths. During the same period in Germany, with a vaccination rate of 96%, there were over 125,000 deaths from smallpox. ( The Hadwen Documents) - In Germany, compulsory mass vaccination against diphtheria commenced in 1940 and by 1945 diphtheria cases were up from 40,000 to 250,000.(Don't Get Stuck, Hannah Allen) - In the USA in 1960, two virologists discovered that both polio vaccines were contaminated with the SV 40 virus which causes cancer in animals as well as changes in human cell tissue cultures. Millions of children had been injected with these vaccines. (Med Jnl of Australia 17/3/1973 p555) - In 1967, Ghana was declared measles free by the World Health Organisation after 96% of its population was vaccinated. In 1972, Ghana experienced one of its worst measles outbreaks with its highest ever mortality rate. (Dr H Albonico, MMR Vaccine Campaign in Switzerland, March 1990) - In the UK between 1970 and 1990, over 200,000 cases of whooping cough occurred in fully vaccinated children. (Community Disease Surveillance Centre, UK) - In the 1970's a tuberculosis vaccine trial in India involving 260,000 people revealed that more cases of TB occurred in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. (The Lancet 12/1/80 p73) - In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77 "Abstracts" ) - In 1978, a survey of 30 States in the US revealed that more than half of the children who contracted measles had been adequately vaccinated. (The People's Doctor, Dr R Mendelsohn) - In 1979, Sweden abandoned the whooping cough vaccine due to its ineffectiveness. Out of 5,140 cases in 1978, it was found that 84% had been vaccinated three times! (BMJ 283:696-697, 1981) -The February 1981 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of obstetricians and 66% of pediatricians refused to take the rubella vaccine. - In the USA, the cost of a single DPT shot had risen from 11 cents in 1982 to $11.40 in 1987. The manufacturers of the vaccine were putting aside $8 per shot to cover legal costs and damages they were paying out to parents of brain damaged children and children who died after vaccination. (The Vine, Issue 7, January 1994, Nambour, Qld) - In Oman between 1988 and 1989, a polio outbreak occurred amongst thousands of fully vaccinated children. The region with the highest attack rate had the highest vaccine coverage. The region with the lowest attack rate had the lowest vaccine coverage. (The Lancet, 21/9/91) - In 1990, a UK survey involving 598 doctors revealed that over 50% of them refused to have the Hepatitis B vaccine despite belonging to the high risk group urged to be vaccinated. (British Med Jnl, 27/1/1990) - In 1990, the Journal of the American Medical Association had an article on measles which stated " Although more than 95% of school-aged children in the US are vaccinated against measles, large measles outbreaks continue to occur in schools and most cases in this setting occur among previously vaccinated children."(JAMA, 21/11/90) - In the USA, from July 1990 to November 1993, the US Food and Drug Administration counted a total of 54,072 adverse reactions following vaccination. The FDA admitted that this number represented only 10% of the real total, because most doctors were refusing to report vaccine injuries. In other words, adverse reactions for this period exceeded half a million! (National Vaccine Information Centre, March 2, 1994) - In the New England Journal of Medicine July 1994 issue a study found that over 80% of children under 5 years of age who had contracted whooping cough had been fully vaccinated. - On November 2nd, 2000, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) announced that its members voted at their 57th annual meeting in St Louis to pass a resolution calling for an end to mandatory childhood vaccines. The resolution passed without a single "no" vote. (Report by Michael Devitt)

 

This is a health alert from Dr. Russell Blaylock concerning Swine Flu.

Dr. Russell Blaylock graduated from OuachitaParishHigh School in 1963.
His professional credentials are to follow.

--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Russell Blaylock wrote:

No one should take the swine flu vaccine-it is one of the most dangerous Vaccines ever devised. It contains an immune adjuvant called squalene (MF-59) which has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such as
MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus. This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200% increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou Gehreg disease).This virus H1N1 kills by causing a "cytokine storm", which means that it cause the body's immune system to overreact and that is why it is killing young people and is a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have weakened immune systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune stimulator and carries the real possibility of making the lethality of the virus much greater.

One's best protection is vitamin D3. One should take 5000 IU a day now and when the disease begins to spread increase the dose to 15,000 IU a day. Vitamin D3 modulates the immune reaction, reducing the chance of an overreaction and stimulates the body to produce what are called antimicrobial peptides, which are powerful killers of viruses that does not involve immunity. This is dose related, which means the higher the dose of vitamin D3 the better the protection. Fish oils (the best is Carlson's Norwegian lemon flavoured fish oil) also reduce immune overreaction. One teaspoon a day should be sufficient. For severe symptoms, one teaspoon twice a day. Antioxidants of various kinds also help-this includes quercetin, curcumin, grapeseed extract, vitamin C and natural vitamin E. A good multivitamin/mineral such as Extend Core (60http://www.vrp.com> www.vrp.com) is also essential.

RUSSELL L. BLAYLOCK, M.D.


Dr. Blaylock is a board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. He attended the LSU School of Medicine in New Orleans and completed his general surgical internship and neurosurgical residency at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston, South Carolina. During his residency he ran the neurology program for one year and did a fellowship in neurosurgery after his residency. For the past 25 years he has practiced neurosurgery in addition to having a nutritional practice. He recently retired from both practices to devote full time to nutritional studies and research.

During his residency training he worked with the eminent neurosurgeon, Dr. Ludwig Kempe. Together they developed the transcallosal removal of intraventricular tumors, which is still used today. Dr. Blaylock presented their cases utilizing this technique to the Congress of Neurological Surgeons. They also developed the ventriculolymphatic shunt in the treatment of hydrocephalus. In addition, they conducted neuroanatomical studies together with the aim of developing improved approaches in vascular intracranial surgery.

It was during his residency that Dr. Blaylock did much of the primary work on intraventricular monitoring of craniocerebral trauma patients, which was reported in the scientific literature. He also worked closely with Dr. Peter Jannettaduring Dr. Jennetta's early research on vascular compression of the cranial nerves as a cause of trigeminal neuralgia and hemifacial spasm. Dr. Blaylock was one of the first neurosurgeons to utilize high-intensity nutritional supplementation in raniocerebral trauma patients, which met with great success.


Dr. Blaylock has written and illustrated three books. The first book was on the subject of excitotoxins (Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills) and how they are related to diseases of the nervous system. His second book, Health and Nutrition Secrets That Can Save Your Life, covers the common basis of all diseases, nutritional protection against diseases of aging, protection against heavy metal toxicity, the fluoride debate, pesticide and herbicide toxicity, excitotoxin update, the vaccine controversy, protection against heart attacks and strokes and contains a new chapter on omega-3 fats. This book has been newly revised as an oversized paperback. His third book, Natural Strategies for Cancer Patients, was released in April, 2003 and discusses the ways to defeat cancer, enhance the effectiveness of conventional treatments and prevent complications associated with these treatments. In addition, he has written and illustrated three chapters in medical textbooks, written a booklet on nutritional protection against biological terrorism and written and illustrated a booklet on multiple sclerosis. He has written over 30 scientific papers in peer-reviewed journals on a number of subjects.

Since the publication of his first book he has been a guest on numerous national and international syndicated radio programs and appeared on the 700 Club several times. He appeared on Nutritionally Living with Dr. Ward Bond. Presently, he is engaged in a monthly radio program discussing his book, Health and nutrition Secrets on Raymond Francis' program Beyond Health. The series will run for 12 months. He lectures widely to both lay and professional medical audiences on a variety of nutritional subjects.

Dr. Blaylock serves on the editorial staff of the Journal of the American Nutraceutical Association and is the associate editor of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, official journal of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. He has a monthly nutrition newsletter, published by NewsMax.com, The Blaylock Wellness Newsletter.

Dr. Blaylock serves as the medical consultant for the Fluoride Toxicity Research Collaborative. He was recently awarded the Integrity in Science award by the Westin Prince Foundation. Presently, he is a visiting professor in the department of biological sciences at BelhavenCollege in Jackson ,Mississippi.

At present he is a member of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, the American Nutraceutical Association, the International and American Associations of Clinical Nutritionist, the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, American College of Nutrition, American Association for Health Freedom, National Health Federation, American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine and the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation. He was recently appointed as a member of the Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine and the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation. He was also recently appointed as a member of the Scientific Advisory Panel of the Life-Extension Foundation.

Surgeon. Author. Lecturer. Educator

 

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ok, thats what this is so far. My reason for posting it? Well, for one everyone likes to watch a car wreck and two, I'm curious as to how far reaching this conspiracy thinking has gone. In Canada, it's batting about 500, many many people believe the vaccine to be as dangerous as the flu, yet, thus far, only flu victims have died, uninoculated of course.

Your thoughts?

I vaccinated my son for everything they offered, and would again. As a matter of fact, I just got myself a dose of TdaP last month. That doesn't mean I don't understand other people's concerns. I have good friends who have made the informed decision not to immunize; it's just something we don't get into.

Your buddy there, on the other hand, sounds a little unhinged. More affirmation to your decision not to attend that reunion.

My comprehension is limited ..... but ... what I get you are asking is ... what do we think of immunizations ? Or ... do we think there is a conspiracy to weaken the human populations immune system to control the population ?

I have more confidence in the medical community and medical science than doubt. I think they are doing a good job and are advancing quit rapidly ... and ironically, this may add to the growing population of humans on this planet. I don't think there is a conspiracy to weaken the human population.

I think the immunization program is what it is ... an attempt to lesson or erradicate certain things by providing a small dose of the virus to the body and allowing it's natural antibodies to do the job later, if needed.

I think there may be a problem with the dispensing and handling of the immunization shots ... which may decrease their effectiveness. I recall reading a few years back, some swine, foreign born doctor was giving kids at a certain college in the US some shots and was using a bogus solution and also using the same needle on many. He/she was caught. I guess they figured they could pocket a lot of money. ( Ultimately the kids had to be aids tested and counseled )
I bet abuses like that may be common in certain nations without a great deal of controls on the medical practitioners.
I have a friend who is a veterinarian and her husband is a chiropractor. THey don't believe in immunizations for their kids .... they are more into holistic medicine .... natural childbirth .... midwivery etc. Yet these chiros believe that the spine is the central part of the human system and that if you are kept well aligned it decreases colds ... sickness ... cancers ... disease. While chiro is good to treat certain conditions of the spine and bones joints .... I find a lot of them are sorta wackos ....

"You are the sun ....
I am the moon ....

You are the words ....
I am the tune.

Play me .... "

I think the problem is, there's a very widespread and basic misunderstanding among the public concerning how vaccines work. Once you get the basics, it's very easy to see what's going on.

A vaccination simply introduces certain antigens from a target pathogen in order to get the immune system to recognize the antigen. The antigen is a protein on the surface of the pathogen which presents itself to the immune system. If you've been vaccinated the immune system rapidly recognizes when you've been exposed (to the flu or whatever), and very quickly knocks on the bad bugs.

Ahh, but viruses and bacteria are constantly evolving. Their surface antigens change over time until they are no longer recognizable to the immune system. This is why you get seasonal flu shots (influenza is an RNA virus which mutates 1000x faster than, say, bacteria). This is why you also get booster shots from time to time. And nevertheless: you may get vaccinated but then still catch the disease later. Same reason--the organism either mutated OR was a different strain then the original vaccine was designed to block. (this is also why we get drug-resistant strains of various pathogens, but i digress--look up plasmids if you ever feel like getting scared of antibiotic resistance in bacteria).

Finally, there's the concept of 'herd immunity'. If 100% of the population can be vaccinated, and there are no other natural hosts for the pathogen in question, you can wipe it out (like smallpox or polio). However, if one percent of the population isn't vaccinated, the disease can circulate within those individuals. And guess what? Yep, mutate, and eventually so change its surface antigens that there is a sudden outbreak among the vaccinated population. So it's really rather stupid NOT to insist on vaccinations for all, as we did decades ago...the folks who don't want to be protected become a potential threat for all. (The guy cites all sorts of instances where 95% or more of a population was vaccinated but still there was an outbreak...well, duh!)

My last remark concerns mercury-based conservatives in vaccines. These were discontinued over a dozen years ago. Yet, autism continues to be a growing problem. (The preservative is still used for flu shots but ONLY for kids over 3). There is some evidence that environmental mercury is linked to autism but the jury is still out on that one. Every doctor I know gets their kids their shots without hesitation. That's enough reassurance for me.

In sum, i think it's utterly retarded not to get vaccines, and your listserve pal is not only a loon but a dangerous one at that. Get him some Ebola; if he survives, offer him a vaccine, maybe it'll change his mind. (I start off being polite and then get caustic, some habits just aren't gonna change).

Doc

Vaccination rates are dropping in the US and it's because of shit like this. As a result, some diseases that we thought we'd gotten rid of have started to pop back into the population.

I don't know why, but the US seems particularly subject to buying into these counter-authority ideas. It almost seems like anyone that suggest "the mainstream" is wrong suddenly gets a huge groundswell of support (evolution, vaccines, global warming). Maybe people just like thinking they know something those pointy headed scientists don't.


-Craig

Hate this crap. The thing that goes missing first from these things is a rational analysis of the cost benefit ratio.

Take a theoritcal case: population one million, if not vaccinated against disease "x" 10,000 will die. Alternatively 100 are at risk from the vaccine. Clearly you're better off vaccinated, but the nut cases will run around yelling "one hundred people died from the vaccination."

I think if polio and smallpox were still rampant most of the anti-vaccinators would change their tune in a hurry and line up for a shot. It's only because of the huge success of vaccinations that we are left with some of the more "minor" diseases to vaccinate against, or the incidence of the "major" ones is low enough most people don't consider it a threat.

I'm using quotes because most of the diseases that would be considered "minor" still kill thousands of people every year and are anything but. However, I think most people look at the flu or chickenpox as minor and MMR as so rare as to not be a concern. Nevermind that among populations where vaccinations against MMR are not done the disease is starting to spread again.

It's only because of the success of vaccinations can people even think that something with such an extremely low risk of having negative side effects is dangerous. I think vaccinations are the single greatest medical success of the 20th Century.

-Craig

I think vaccinations are the single greatest medical success of the 20th Century.

I agree.

The JWs had a strict ban on vaccines in the 1930s/40s and i think even later into the 50s, though I don't have the actual dates. (This was all part of their decades-long quack medicine phase which included bans on aluminum cookware or anything that had aluminum in it--I encountered an elder in the 80s who still was adamant that the old thinking was true, he wouldn't touch aluminum and never used aluminum-based deodorant so on some days, whew! I almost fainted. Who knows how his wife put up with it. Anyway, glad that particular conspiracy theory seems to have died, probably because the true believers need foil for their hats).

The point is: Talk about bloodguilt. As if the various and ever-changing restrictions on transfusions, blood products, vaccines, psychotherapy, party cards weren't enough...where does it end--so many things they opposed irrationally led to so many needless deaths. And all out of ignorance and paranoia. I will never, ever forget the young woman I personally knew who died at 19 because a)she didn't trust hospitals because of the propaganda so b) she wouldn't go get checked out despite pregancy and c) couldn't afford insurance regardless so d) got a 'midwife' to help her and is now dead along with her baby--hemorrhaged during her delivery. I blame it squarely on the watchtower. Her husband remarried 2 months later, still an icon of the local cong. Typical idiot asshole. (this is the screechin post isn't it?)

Sadly the appeal of fringe ideas seems to flourish like weeds far beyond just jws, no matter what facts are brought to light. When I encounter folks who cling to such notions, I remind myself it's time to move on: Facts to the contrary only prove to true believers the extent of the huge 'conspiracy'.

Sigh.

Doc

I think the internet has played a huge role in taking the conspiracy nuts national. No longer is irrationality confined to politics or small enclaves of inbred idiocy, instead, couch your fears in linguistic embroidery and foreward to your mailing list. Poof, you've indirectly managed to become a part of several hundred deaths.

It's the old 'squeaky wheel gets the grease' adage hard at work.