I tried war canoe last summer. I'd say its way too hard and it hurt my kneeling knee and the boat went way to fast. And it was "tippy".

sounds awful.. haha.. but people like it apparently.

dbaot 4 life!!

Started in Dboat 8 years ago. Paddled in a war canoe for the first time last year and I have to say that it is indeed painful as hell, but I love it! It makes you apprreciate how easy Dboat is compared to other flatwater paddling.

I have paddled in dragon boat, and I have paddled in a war canoe.

In terms of absolute pain, effort and exhaustion, I found war canoe more difficult. But I did not find that my time in a war canoe automatically made me a better paddler in a dragon boat.

Think about that. Think what you will. But think .

... will probably not make you a better Dragon Boat paddler, but it will make you mentally stronger. There's nothing like the rush of winning a War Canoe race. You need to hang on to the feeling to compensate for the permanent pain in your knee and legs. (If you start WC as a little kid, it's apparently easier.)

And if you are at a party with some old flatwater guys and the conversation starts to slow down, just ask if they have any stories about War Canoe races. They can go on all night!

I found that the balance element of war canoeing made me a better paddler in general. The ability to lean out of a tippier boat and get over the water teaches you to "commit to the water". Also war canoe teaches you to use your feet and hips and will make you a better paddler if you can transition the style over to dragon boat.

warcanoe is painful if you are not used to it, but can be alot of fun with the right coach.

Great.Now we got a buncha dbers talkin' about warcanoe like they are experts.What is this world coming to?

Don't get your shorts in a knot, champ. Re-reading the messages so far, no one seems to put themselves forward as any kind of expert, they just give observations from their point of view. (except for dragonboatdude, but he's not a dragon boat racer, just a jackass flattie who likes to stir sh!t)

It's probably some idiot dragonboater who doesnt' WANT to talk about flatwater. Notice how the moment someone brings up flatwater, they start bitching about how they shoudl get their own forum? Notice how that hasnt' happened here.

It's the stupid dragonboaters who make it bad for other dragonboaters who are not stupid.

"Notice how the moment someone brings up flatwater, they start bitching about how they shoudl get their own forum? Notice how that hasnt' happened here."

Get your own forum.

yer welcome.

The more you paddle, the better paddler you will be, be it war canoe, kayak, oc1, dragon boat. Expand your experiences!

eventhough any kind of paddling makes your db skills better it still comes down to the fact that db is easy and pretty much anybody can do it. Like flatties do it because they either get paid by teams or do it just because they like to paddle not because it's a hard intense sport. Now come on guys,you know how easy dbing is so stop talking about how hard it is. Just because war canoe takes some skill doesn't mean that it sucks.

dragonboatdude is a flatwater paddler. he was making fun of dragon boaters.

sooooo clever.

From that argument I can simply say "Soccer" is an easy sport. Just about anybody can play soccer after a 1 minute tutorial. Kids at 5 years old can enjoy a decent game of soccer. So why are some soccer players paid a few million dollars a year? Just like any other sport, its all about how hard you push yourself and at what level you compete. I can't tell why it is so hard for many db-haters to see this? What gives.

Great analogy.

Many DBers find Flatwater difficult. Not as hard if you start as a kid.

I'm sure many soccer, basketball, baseball, football, rowers and more would find flatwater as tough as a DBer would. What does this really prove?

This forum is for flatties on cocaine.
Their EGOS needs to be fed.
Thank god you guys discovered dragon boating.

Love all sport respect to all sport

yea right soccer isnt an easy sport youve obviously have never played competetive soccer in your life haha one minute yea right how to run with the ball controll it acurate passing acurate shooting sliding perfectly at someone recovery speed come play with me ill show you "easy"

Please don't start on soccer!
Right away the GTA guys are gonna start complaining about the height of the grass and what colour dish glove the goalie wears.

You can thank the flatties in BC for introducing DB to the Ontario flatties...the rest is history.

FACT.

'Love all sport respect to all sport'

To: April 5 2006, 6:02 PM

"Many DBers find Flatwater difficult. Not as hard if you start as a kid."

What a stupid thing to say, of course it's hard for kids, have you seen how little their bodies are? And they fall out just as often when they learn, they probably don't whine as much though...

Wrong. I started as a kid and it was NOT hard to learn, but so tough to race...IT WAS FUN!

Kids do not fall out as often as adults and sometimes have freakish balance. They are smaller and have a lower center of gravity.

Jesse is a freakin moron. Soccer is a piece of cake.

I second that jesse is a moron. Seems like he completely missed the sarcasm and point of the poster when they mentioned that soccer is easy. They were saying that anybody can play a sport with very little training but that doesn't make it easy--it is as hard as you make it. Just because a bunch of people that have never paddled can jump onto the boat and get it to move one way or another does not mean that it is easy. The only reason they say it is easy because they can jump onto a boat and beat on a boat consisting of pure DB paddlers, but probably only because those pure DB paddlers simply are not able to put in as much water time as they do. If DB was a sport comprised of all flatwater paddlers then you wouldnt see them talking about how easy DB is...

Last time i checked Dragonboat is a sport. Maybe not in the eye's of the IOC, but they no nothing anyway. If flat water paddlers jump into dragon boats and train they wouldn't find it as easy? Did i get that right? Actually they do and will the reason behind this is they paddle in a much more dificult boats, thus making a very stable dragonboat very easy. The soccer analogy is great if we're comparing dragonboat to dragonboat. Look at it this way. War canoe = NFL DB= CFL. Ya ther both good at what they do but it's alot harder to be in the NFL then it is the CFL also the calibere of athletes are much better. Not to say that DB's are poor athletes there not, just as CFL players are still good football players. Just maybe not as good as thier counterparts.

You're still wrong. Comparing dragonboat to flat water is like comparing 100m Sprint to 110m hurdles. Basketball to Netball. Beach V'Ball to Court V'Ball. Cricket to Baseball. Field hockey to ice hockey. I can name more if thats not enough to get into your thick skull.

all of your examples are great. yes different sports, but very similar and transferable skills.

Yes, a person who has trained 4 years for the 110m hurdles wont do too badly doing the 100m sprint. On the other hand a person who has trained 4 years for the 100m, will probably have a harder time keeping up the speed and getting over the hurdles.

Do do hurdlers go around claiming their sport is harder and they are definitely better than sprinters? No. Its only flatties that do. Morons.

See the "could someone explain to me..." thread for why DBers are so insecure about their "sport". Flatwater paddling of the type discussed here is clearly a sport. DB is clearly not. DB is an activity. And this is such a boring debate. I'm going to go have a nap.

a sport as any other. Get over yourselves.

There is no basis for saying it isn't. Neither argument really carries any weight.

Prove it isn't or prove it is. There is nothing concrete to go on other than common sense comparison to so many other fringe sports. Oh and there is the dictionary definitions as well.

I can come up with a bunch of self created requirements that DB doesn’t meet that means it isn’t a sport and I could come up with just as many that prove it is. It is such an old tired discussion.

Perfect example of some immature Sprint, Marathon, OC or other person just trying to get the self conscious DB’ers all fired up. See other thread as someone else mentioned. Sooo stupid.

As a wise coach said to me last year, "Just shut up and paddle."

See you in Pickering.

Where the water will apparently be warm enough to have a bath in by that time of year!

Why must every thread on this forum degenerate into the same bull@#$% argument?

Borrrring!

I guess your here to give us an example?