Who is going? Let the predictions begin!

Finally! I was wondering when this thread would start. I guess Calgary has distracted most of the forum dwellers.

I heard Mayfair is not going.

I heard the Mofos are taking off their shirts for a change

Has GWN published a list of teams yet? Who do you know that's going?

On another thread, Big Fish said they were going.

OK then let's get started!

1. Big Fish
2. Mofos

no no no I changed my mind

1. Mofos
2. Big Fish

hold on, maybe we should wait until we know who is going?

Hammerhead will be there.

Big Fish
Hammerheads
Mofos
Who else? lol

Komodos are going and we plan on protesting the unfair use of the big paddle thingy at the back of the boat but only if it gives us an advantage in the A final.

Big Fish
Hammerheads
Mofos
Komodos

Add in:

Shockwave
Hanalei
Mojos
Blades

In that case,
Hanalei
Big Fish
Hammerheads
Mofos
Blades
Mojos
Komodos
Shockwave

...plus 167 others.

Relax. It is only GWN.

Hellooooo.. what about Hydrophobics??

and Scotia

and piranhas

and 164 others.

Hahaha...

Scotia Rouge should win or maybe the Hydros if they go.

1. Scotia
2. Hydros
3. Hanelei
4. Little Fish
5. Big Fish

No Chiro, No Mayfair... the title is up for grabs. Are any quebec or western teams coming?

1. Scotia
2. Hydro
3. Imps
4. Hanalei
5. Little Fish

6. Hammerheads
7. Big Fish
8. Mofos
9. UCC
10. New College

11. Mojos
12. Chaos
13. Blades
14. Jetstart
15. Wahoos

I doubt scotia is attending unless I hear otherwise.
lost too many crew to other teams.
word on the street - Mayfair will not be there, however the rumour is Farintosh is sending his mixed national crew. To be confirmed.
Crews having trouble with numbers, so could be real changes with
final positions.

12:54, you've been spending too much time in hotwater!

huh !! what's a splash in a bath got to do with anything

We can all speculate until GWN brings out their sat heats.
Then the debate can start.

is it really confirmed that mayfair is not going? what happened?
what about the chiros? this would have been a great course and event to showcase the top teams!

Mayfair will be there.. under a 'new name' shhhhhh Jim will NOT be denied!

Look out for a new team and name with Jim on the back... same as the team going to Australia

A
1. ScotiaRouge
2. WRCC
3. Hydrophobic Dragons
4. Piranhas
5. Canadian National Women's Team
6. Hanalei

A cons
7. BMO Groupe Financier
8. Big Fish
9. MOFOs
10. Hammerheads
11. COllingwood Sidelaunchers
12. Team Chaos

B
13. Mojo's Reloaded
14. Urban Canoe Club
15. Wahoos
16. Jetstart
17. Saints - SJHC
18. Wave Cutters

Piranhas that high, and Big Fish that low? I dunno...

1.Miller Time!

same as the team going to Australia.
Is that Blake's Women's crew...or Jim ?

not going?

Nope. They are done for the season. Pussies.

I think these are actually pretty good.

A
1. ScotiaRouge
2. WRCC (unless they bring a team unlike anything we've seen - too high)
3. Hydrophobic Dragons
4. Piranhas
5. Canadian National Women's Team
6. Hanalei

A cons
7. BMO Groupe Financier (your thinking of last year, the team has slid but if they get some help from other Montreal crews maybe).
8. Big Fish (could be a surprise, have slid all season, or are they just waiting for a higher profile festival - we'll see)
9. MOFOs
10. Hammerheads
11. COllingwood Sidelaunchers
12. Team Chaos

B
13. Mojo's Reloaded (I'd actually give them the nod over Chaos, but it'll be close)
14. Urban Canoe Club (I'd expect them to be better - they have done pretty well at GWN for the last two years - and this year for that matter).
15. Wahoos
16. Jetstart
17. Saints - SJHC (perhaps a little low - I'd bump them a stop or two)
18. Wave Cutters

Forgotten teams:
1) SCC Phoenix (expect them to show up around 15)
2) PseudoBlades (how pseudo? they could be up there if they have most of their team from earlier this year)
3) Quicksilver may be close enough to hop on the tail end of this list)

4) Fairport Juniors - if they get a bit faster they might make the list, but I don't expect them to.

Whoever they r that week............. will be there.

I'm pretty sure the Imps will be there. I know members of the crew and they have been talking about going to GWN all year. I don't know why they were left off the list. Following the results of Calgary, we might want to consider the Piranhas being even higher since they managed to beat FCRCC, Imps and Pacific Reach by over 2 seconds

okay so where are all the predictions...

with chiros coming, its got to be switching things up a bit

MGD and Chiro have to be at the top.

Whose MGD again ?

I'm telling you Imps have folded. They had a big ceremony in Calgary thanking all of their members for their efforts over the years.

Good luck in the future, guys!

I heard that both Scott and Rich were mortally injured in a mechanical bull riding mishap - trying the extremely difficult Russian Double Dismount - that the team barely finished the regatta and promptly tipped their new stetsons to the rest of the season.

Ranchman's bar - the scene of the incident mentioned above - was closed Sunday as a sign of respect to the fallen riders. Many have said that so many chaps were left at the establishment, the front door could not be opened.

Flowers and donations should be forwarded to the Many Happy Ending Spa in Mississauga and/or The French Maid gentleman's club in Calgary.

R-IM-P

Boring....lets predict again with some revisions:

1. MGD - Jim's Team
2. Chiros
3. Piranhas
4. Scotia Rouge
5. Hydrophobic
6. WRCC - CDN Juniors

7. Imps
8. Hanalei
9. Big Fish
10. Mofos
11. Canadian National Women's Team
12. Hammerheads

Other: Urban Canoe Club, Collingwood, BMO Groupe, Mojos, St. Joes, Chaos, Quicksilver, Jetstart

Jim's team - is that Mayfair. Why are't they using that name ?

1. MGD - Jim's Team
2. Sudbury Chiros
3. Scotia Rouge
4. Hydrophobic
5. Piranhas
6. Imperial Dragons

7. Hanalei
8. Big Fish
9. WRCC - CDN Juniors
10. Canadian National Women's Team
11. Urban Canoe Club
12. Mofos

13. BMO Groupe Financier
14. Hammerheads
15. Mojos
16. Collingwood
17. Quicksilver
18. Jetstart

do you exclude the National Women's crew from the overall results ?
they did at the Island ?

GWN always lets the ladies play for full marks in the Mixed division if they enter as a mixed team.

Relax folks, it's only GWN.

yup.... just a plain old festival

I'm not sure whether I agree with that idea of allowing a National Crew
into a Festival, even if it is an all Womens crew. (for preparation for Sydney I presume).

"I'm not sure whether I agree with that idea of allowing a National Crew
into a Festival, even if it is an all Womens crew. (for preparation for Sydney I presume). "

pay to play. end of story.

free entry baby - yeah

Best so far!

1. MGD - Jim's Team
2. Sudbury Chiros
3. Scotia Rouge
4. Hydrophobic
5. Piranhas
6. Imperial Dragons

7. Hanalei
8. Big Fish
9. WRCC - CDN Juniors
10. Canadian National Women's Team
11. Urban Canoe Club
12. Mofos

13. BMO Groupe Financier
14. Hammerheads
15. Mojos
16. Collingwood (doubt they will slide under the Mojos)
17. Quicksilver (I'd put SCC Phoenix over them)
18. Jetstart (sorry, way too low)

Best so far!
1. MGD - Jim's Team (by a mile, if the rumour is true about the National Crew)
2. Sudbury Chiros (they'll push all the way - best true club crew)
3. Hydrophobic (watch these guys in two years if they stay together)
4. Imperial Dragons (if they attend)
5. Piranhas (we like the weenie)
6. Scotia Rouge (maybe...losing paddlers)


7. Hanalei (depends...when was their last race ?)
8. Big Fish (anywhere in B)
9. Collingwood (this crew grinds it out)
10. Canadian National Women's Team (about right....do you include them !!)
11. Urban Canoe Club (coach knows how to push them)
12. Mofos (too high...see comment about training and racing)

13. BMO Groupe Financier
14. Hammerheads (very very quiet this year)
15. Saints (couple of bodies added)
16. Mojos
17. Jetstart
18. Choas

Don't underestimate UC and Hanalei. I think they will do much better. They always peak near the end of the season.

Top Three


1) Jim's National crew: by 3/4 boat length (and all of them won't be here).
2) Chiro
3) Scotia Rouge

anon 4:54 -

you think jetstart is way too low at 18th? Which one of the 17 above them will they beat.

I think people are putting the Imps too low. They haven't shown that they're any slower.

Piranhas just beat imps in calgary at a fair course, no reason why they can't beat them at M Bell, unless you think weather has something to do with it.

Will the piranhas' live try out affect their racing / times as well?HMmmm...if the Imps do show up, I'd expect them to take them.

Without Sam and Nick the Piranhas are NOTHING.

NOTHING.

"Sam and Nick" <----- Inside joke?

Top Teams....

1. Jim's Senior Team
2. Chiro's
3. Scotia
4. Canadian Women
5. Fairport Jrs
6. WRCC Jrs

^ Hahaha

1) Chiros
2) MGD
3) Scotia
4) Imps
5) Hydros
6) Hanalei
7) Piranhas

Tht's even funnier than the last

"anon 4:54 -

you think jetstart is way too low at 18th? Which one of the 17 above them will they beat."

Quicksilver and Mojos

is Lola getting married?

Mojos are temporarily bolstered by a handful of GSK paddlers.

GSK is a slower team. They will only be bolstered if they replace thier weakest with GSK's best.

Yes, inside joke.

and the imps got slower with you in the boat on sunday, go figure...

Let's clear this up...
SCC Phoenix is not the same SCC team that has been ripping up waves. It's another team I believe.
Could someone verify this?

SCC is the Sudbury Canoe Club
SCC before the Team name indicates we are Sudbury Canoe Club members.
The Sudbury Canoe Club has 3 competitive teams;
The SCC Chiro, The SCC Dragons, The SCC Phoenix.

The SCC Phoenix was started in May and has only raced in our local festival. We are a mixture of experienced paddlers with quite a few novice paddlers. We look forward to are attending GWN.

Is this correct? If so, why the name change?

Rumor has it Nunavut put together an elite crew.

Just to clear things up

We - Team Chiro are not going to the festival. We initially were going to as a mixture of a couple of teams under the name Northern Select, but have withdrawn as it stands now. Good luck to all the teams competing.

They've pulled out.

1. MGD - Jim's Team
2. Piranhas
3. Scotia Rouge
4. Hydrophobic
5. Imps
6. Verdun

7. WRCC Juniors
8. Big Fish
9. Hanalei
10. Canadian National Women's Team
11. UCC
12. Hammerheads

13. Collingwood
14. Mofos
15. SCC
16. BMO
17. Saints
18. Jetstart

WRCC isn't going to the Isalnd anymore, but I think they would've come third.
- Rouge (June 10 2007, 7:17 PM)

http://www.network54.com/Forum/135730/thread/1180983991/last-1182442655/Toronto+Island+Predictions

Hey Rouge. Time to put up. We're ALL gunning for YOU.

Clearwater, who do you paddle for?

Your finals:
Rouge
MGD
Hydros
Imps
Piranhas
Verdun

4:33PM UCC will peak in time to beat Jetstart.

8:49 asked "Clearwater, who do you paddle for?."
I never paddle and tell!!

My perdictions


1. MGD - Jim's Team
2. Piranhas
3. Verdun
4. Hanalei
5. Imps
6. Fairport Jrs
7. Scotia Rouge
8. Big Fish
9. WRCC JRs
10. Canadian National Women's Team

Good job Clearwater....I'm pretty sure from previous posts you are a Sudburi National athlete? I found that on old post? So you must paddle on chiros as they are the only strong competitive team up there.

9. WRCC JRs
Low B - at best...

ummmm if you read the clearwater post, it sounds like the paddler is from the phoenix team. Note the word "We"

Verdun Adrenaline or Express???

Big difference in terms of standings.

Piranhas that high? Hmmm, I don't think so, but they are a cool group and I'd love to have them prove me wrong.

1. MGD
2. Imps
3. Piranhas
4. Scotia
5. Canadian National Women's Team
6. Hanalei

7. Hydros
8. UCC
9. Big Fish
10. Saints
11. Collingwood
12. Hammerheads

1. MGD - Jim's Team
2. Piranhas
3. Verdun
4. Hanalei
5. Imps
6. Fairport Jrs
7. Scotia Rouge
8. Big Fish
9. WRCC JRs
10. Canadian National Women's Team

Who is the retard who keeps putting Fairport so high??

the same whipper snapper that thinks WRCC will also place that high.

And that is Verdun EXPRESS going to GWN. Unless they brought mostly Adrenaline paddlers, but still call themselves Express - there is no way they will end up in the top 12.

get real folks....

this is more like it

1. MGD
2. Hydro
3. Scotia
4. Pirahna's
5. Imps
6.... to close to tell???.....

Lanes are tight at the course, whoever gets the lanes beside MGD will be able to grab jims wash in the final. They will get the free tow to the number two and three placement spots.

Adrenaline DBC is on the schedule as well.

10 Verdun Adrenaline 2:04.7

32 Adrenaline MDBSC 2:09.3

Big difference - one will make 'A', the other likely won't.

I don't see Verdun Adrenaline on the schedule.

I see Verdun Express (2:13).

how abour we limit the discussion to teams that can go sub 2 minutes?

how about you shut up?

Anonymous Sep 6 2007, 12:52 PM

I like your response.

A Div Semi Finals 1
Lane
1 UCC
2 Adrenaline
3 Hydrophobic
4 MGD
5 Imperial Dragons
6 Hammerheads

A Div Semi Final 2
1 Saints
2 Big Fish
3 Piranhas
4 Scotia Rouge
5 Hanalei
6 Canadian National Womens

Funny stuff.

Seriously, I wonder if ANYONE can go sub-2minutes on the new course. I don't think it runs particularly fast. So maybe we shouldn't discuss anyone?

False Creek, Mayfair and G&G all went sub 2 minute last year.

Doesn't help now that the water level's dropped by two feet!

Hammerheads and UCC in A division, and Rouge and Hanalei in A consolation? Have you been smoking your old socks or something?

Who is going to GWN with a stacked roster?

If you read carefully, it's Lars predictions of the semi-finals. Maybe YOU need to get off the crack.

I would include hanalei in the final, they know where the good "stuff" is at: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3476801002597020377

1. MGD
2. Hydro
3. Scotia
4. Pirahnas
5. Imps
6. Hanalei

Lars' semi-final predictions are okay. The Nat women could be a little higher seeded and I'd pick WRCC, Mofos, Mojos, Chaos and Jetstart ahead of the Saints.

Lars may be onto something.
Looking at the heats, the "A" Semi's could turn out like that.

So shall it be.

A Consolation Finals
Lane
1 Saints (or who ever you'd like to throw in here)
2 Hammerheads
3 Adrenaline
4 Big Fish
5 UCC
6 Canadian National Women's Crew

A Finals
Lane
1 Hanalei
2 Imperial Dragons
3 Scotia Rouge
4 MGD
5 Hydropobic
6 Piranhas

Close racing all weekend, there will be no MGD open water victories this weekend, at most 1/2 a boat.

I have a feeling MGD will have open water. Let's call it a hunch.

I sure hope MGD has open water.... they are TEAM CANADA... if they dont' we clearly don't have the best team going to Australia... give your head a shake... this will be a ****show

MGD will be a group of seniors (not Jim's full team, and probably half over 50 years old [at least the guys]) who will be paddling together for the first time this weekend. They're going to need some time to figure out how to work together, so I think any talk of open water is unrealistic.

I'm sure they'll get faster over the weekend, and faster as they train in Sydney.

can you say bs.
Jim will be adding bodies, and 75% of this years Mayfair
crew are in the boat...so how do you figure they have never
paddled before.
As the previous poster said...they had better win by a huge margin.
And, don't make excuses that they are over fifty etc. etc.
They are essentially the Senior Mixed Crew.

A Div Semi Finals 1
Lane
1 BMO
2 Verdun
3 Hydrophobic
4 MGD
5 Imperial Dragons
6 Hammerheads

A Div Semi Final 2
1 Mofos
2 Canadian National Women
3 Piranhas
4 Scotia Rouge
5 Hanalei
6 SCC (only because I bet they will have some chiros)

B Div Semi 1
1 Wavecutters
2 New Dragons
3 Collingwood
4 Chaos
5 Saints
6 Quicksilver

B Div Semi 2
1 Wahoos
2 Mojos
3 Big Fish
4 UCC
5 Jetstart
6 RBC

"if they dont' we clearly don't have the best team going to Australia..."

"As the previous poster said...they had better win by a huge margin."


New flavours of the "they won, but they should have won by more" school of reasoning...

To be fair, any coach would throw their National Crew in this late.
Blake's done it with the National Women's Crew - at least he called them by what they are.
Dressing up the Senior Crew with the top Sponsors name...that's pushing it.
That said - we'll race anyone.

Buddy, Blake isn't the coach of the National Women's crew anymore.

I think I remember a number of the national team entries for the Island Festival over the years being sponsored by Tour East, Fidelity and various banks. Why is this any different for MGD?
I'm sure the athletes have enough financial load getting to Australia and a sponsored entry is helpful.

Tour East have usually sponsored the Women's Team.
They usually go under the title Tour East National Women's Team.
This were their title this year;

National Dragonboat Club
NDC Women's Team exhibition team

Looks like they didn't disguise anything.

Dude get a clue. Verdun Express is not an A division crew.

Oh, so the issue is the name, not the sponsorship...
So if they were called MGD Senior Nats, you would be happy?
OK....

Relax everyone.
MGD or whatever they are called won't even be back next year.
GWN are just keeping a sponsor happy just as TIDBF do with their sponsors.

This forum never ceases to amaze me.

Good Luck to all teams competing this weekend regardless of what division you end up in.

How exciting to be able to watch the Jr, Women and Sr teams that will be racing in Australia. I expect they will all finish high in the standings.

Have fun and play nice.

Such stupid comments about the MGD team. They're not hiding who they are. They're just looking after the people who paid their entry. Get a grip.

yah yah yah...
Jim can whatever he likes. No rule that says you can't put in a National Crew.

I'd be a little pissed though coming in second knowing you really won the event, or missed out on being in "B" for the first time...but you won "C"
because NDC attended as well. Just a thought.

Yeah, our national teams shouldn't be allowed to paddle in Canada before they go to Sydney! A true national team is different from a club team and has paddlers from all over. They should only be allowed to race in the world's trials, and then wait a year to race together in Sydney.

All you sissy men conciding defeat before the race has even started should stay home and not race at all. Being respectful of other teams is one thing, but all this homage to MGD is making me sick. Get over it and just race your race when the time comes.

"I'd be a little pissed though coming in second knowing you really won the event, or missed out on being in "B" for the first time...but you won "C"
because NDC attended as well. Just a thought"

yes - a stupid thought. what about all the good crews that chose not to geo this year. Maybe if the senior national team doesn't go - mayfair does - you think you are going to beat them? Chiro is not there either - if both chiro and mayfais go - the team that finishes second is now third.

Bottom line is - you finish where you finish - it is stupid to start saying that you deserved to finish higher because some national teams showed up to play.

Playing devil's advocate here, there are some valid arguments that National teams shouldn't compete at the club/coroporate/community level.

On the one hand I agree that our national teams need tune-up races prior to competing at the World level. Makes sense. You have to race as a crew against real competition to see what your strenghts and weaknesses are. And a good national team is a source of pride for our whole community. So they should be allowed and encouraged to race.

But on the other hand, it sucks to be a regular crew getting trounced by a selected, trained, genetically engineered monster team. Okay, maybe their DNA wasn't tinkered with, but I think there's little doubt that Jim's MGD Senior national mixed crew is going to kick some serious a$$ this weekend. They're also going to screw up the regatta in the worst way. Every heat they are in will benefit the two teams next to them. The finals will be decided why who get the lanes next to them too. Their mere presense will skew the results. And they will take away a win that you could argue rightfully should go to a "real" crew.

So there's the two arguments as I see them. You don't have to agree with them.

Maybe the solution is to have them race as an exhibition crew only. Paddle in outside lanes in the heats, be exlcuded from the finals but race a "fun" final against the top qualifiers, maybe as a extra challenge race on Saturday.

Just a thought. Vilify it as you will.

Of course, this whole argument depends on the MGD team actually being the Senior National team. If they're not, honestly, then the whole argument is moot and they're just another team with every right to be there as yours.

I'm not sure I understand the problem with Jim's crew racing.

Mac's former crew, the other seniors, race in Pickering & Ottawa.....how is that any different?

10:12 you are my hero

It makes me ill to read all the BS about good crews not being allowed to compete with the crappy crews.

Thre is always going to be a team that's better than the others. They're better because they've done something to be better. Whether that was training, starting young, getting good coaching, spending lots of money, whatever. They're better. Get over it.

They're the national team is because they're better. These are festivals that don't have a restriction as to whom can race. In the club crews, there are rules who can race, and they must be followed. At the GWN there are not. Again, get over it.

Stop crying that if only all those good crews didn't show up you'd have finished in B division. Wht don't you put your Wii down and do some real training and maybe you'll be in B division on your own merit not because you were lucky enough to be the only crew in the race.

Stop blaming others for your own shortcomings.

To summarize:
"Get over it."

Hmmm, lots to think about there. Thanks for contributing.

The only good thing that came out of all of this is that we need a dragon boat Wii game.

That would be a blast....20 Wii units linked together.
Screw the training.

winter training for us in Ont.

Community dragon boat festivals aren't part of some sanctioned league. You pay you play no matter who you are. No team is more entitled to compete than another. And if you finish second to a national team you should be able to take some satisfaction in that. You really need a generic piece of pewter to be happy?

When Simon Whitfield shows up at a local 10k do you think the other runners start grumbling, "Oh sh*t, now I'm gonna finish 86th instead of 85th"? Or are they excited to compete and measure themselves against an Olympic champion?

Exceptional talent is great for an event. If you can't appreciate the opportunity to see and compete against these teams then I suggest you take up Jazzercise or something, because you're not coping very well competitive sport.

You mean it's really all supposed to be a privalege to get a spanking by the MGD show this weekend.

Miller's getting their money's worth already. Look how many times MGD has been mentioned.

I need a beer

If MGD is who every says they are they need to win. As much as a tune up GWN may be for these guys/girls, losing to any local club would be an embarassment.

Winning against this kind of team would be something else. I like the odds. Sign me up! Who's got space on their team for a rusty old blade?

and you better make that a MGD!

A original cold-filtered MGD....yummy

Waaassssuuuupppppppppp!!!

The rational trolls have finally arrived!

Exceptional talent is great for an event. If you can't appreciate the opportunity to see and compete against these teams then I suggest you take up Jazzercise or something, because you're not coping very well competitive sport.
*******************************************************

So true.

All I can say is I look forward to racing head to head with some of these teams and wish them all the best in Sydney.

Once again this sport seems to really lack true athletes. The goal should be to compete against the best at YOUR best.

What a great opportunity to be able to watch the Junior Women race the Premier Women. Do you think those kids are complaining??? How exciting it must be for them. But I think that is where they are different from many involved in Dragon Boat.

See you on the start line.I'll have a cold beer waiting for you when you are finished.

I hope they win by open water.Then we can watch all the wannabees pout that they were ripped off and shoulda coulda won.

This will happen for sure.

Better bring the kleenex.

If you've ever played any kind of organized sports you will know winners are there because like everyone else they take advantages when they can because they also know that everyone else would do the same then against them if they had the chance (within the rules of the game). I agree with Brad in that you have to be good to be lucky, because regardless of how lucky you may be if you can't take advantage of being next to a good team to ride their wash, then just about the only thing you can do is cry about how a national team should not be allowed to race in a local event.

Congrats to Hanalei on a wicked lane draw! Totally deserved. You guys rock!


now wasn't that equally stupid?

not knocking hanalei here, but the "have to be good to be lucky" crap is getting on my nerves.

"not knocking hanalei here, but the "have to be good to be lucky" crap is getting on my nerves"

Exactly. Same goes for these tired blanket phrases:

"They just wanted it more"
"Shut up and paddle"
"You must be one a team that can't beat X since you are complaining about X"
"Why are we afraid of competition?"
"If you worked on paddling instead of worry about <insert legitimate beef here> you might have won"

Fewking nailed it!

You guys are awesome and if there is ever a forum posting competition you should be seeded.

Unfortunately, you have decided that dragonboating is your athletic activity (and I am stretching quite a bit when I describe what you do on the water as athletic). While you might win gold in the "P" division, you will be far removed in ability and character from the teams in the divisions above you.

"While you might win gold in the "P" division, you will be far removed in ability and character from the teams in the divisions above you."

This is exactly what I mean. I actually belong to a team that has most likely beaten anyone who has ever read the forum.

Hey ROUGE!

It's time. The RECKONING!

"I actually belong to a team that has most likely beaten anyone who has ever read the forum."

I am guessing that was before you joined the team.

Nope. I don't understand why people can't recognize that top paddlers can also be concerned about issues of fairness and that itsn't all about the cliches (ie. shut up and paddle or I must suck and that's why I complain). Get a grip. Top paddlers have senses of fairness too.

You did not comment on any issues of fairness and while you are a self-proclaimed "top paddler", I don't believe it.

Neither do I. Not for a minute.

Of course you don't believe it. That's why you're the problem. Small mindedness. Good luck at GWN this weekend.