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Whatever happened to this Club

August 5 2008 at 9:56 AM
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What happened to the Wongs DragonSlayers ... They used to be the most dominant club in Quebec and Ontario...Is the club still around ?? or have they gone the way of the dinosaur like MCC, Madawaska, X-pads

 
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Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 5 2008, 10:24 AM 

What happened to the Wongs DragonSlayers ... They used to be the most dominant club in Quebec and Ontario...Is the club still around ?? or have they gone the way of the dinosaur like MCC, Madawaska, X-pads

Let me see if I have this correct...

MCC - Missassauga Canoe Club - nope haven't gone away just paddling with various teams includling sprint programs
Madawaska - Rideau Canoe Club and veterens sprint paddlers - great bunch of folks -
X-pad - PDBC - and high schoolers! Now on various teams

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 5 2008, 12:10 PM 

Last I heard, they disbanded years ago. Bad politics I gather

 
 
Paddler 11

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August 5 2008, 1:26 PM 

Disabled years ago?? Weren't they at Montreal last year??

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 5 2008, 1:29 PM 

Dragonslayers were never the MOST dominant. Very good at best.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 5 2008, 1:58 PM 


No disband. Wong's were in both Lachine and Ottawa this year, but are not the force they once were. Still one of the better Montreal teams but Verdun is clearly now the top.

The club went from four boats in 2005 - Dragonslayers, Immortal Dragons, Chargers, Crusaders - down to one or maybe two this year.

Looks like the webiste died in 2005 as well.
http://www.wongdbc.com/

 
 
If you must know...

what happened to the Wongs??

August 5 2008, 8:42 PM 

The Wongs Dragonslayers ruled in their prime. MCC was the only team to beat them in the NCCCC (can't remember the year) Won the race off to go to the Worlds in Rome by a mile, where they won the bronze after Madawaska's silver and can't remember who's gold (italy I think, but they must have been doped up <sic>)

They came, they ruled and they retired. Mayfair took over and they reign supreme. Until the next team takes over. End of story. Slayers are presently getting fat, getting laid and talking about the good old days. Rumour has it that the old team is planning a reunion and considering taking over the curling world...wait a minute, isn't Maplebear doing that now? Damn, back to getting fat...

There is life after d-boat folks, and it's pretty nice. Lily I love you. Ok you too Gordon:)))

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 6 2008, 8:53 AM 

The original "Wongs" was a mix of sprinters and this goes back to the late 90's. Not all were from Ottawa and Montreal but a good chunk of them were and the boat was stacked. What you see now is nothing like the "original".

 
 
A former IMM

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 6 2008, 9:22 AM 

Hey, is that you, old guy?

We never did get around to gathering the gang for a brewski after you came back from vacation?

The former web-guy.

 
 
Anonymous

Rome WCCC

August 6 2008, 9:42 AM 

<<The Wongs Dragonslayers ruled in their prime. MCC was the only team to beat them in the NCCCC (can't remember the year) Won the race off to go to the Worlds in Rome by a mile, where they won the bronze after Madawaska's silver and can't remember who's gold (italy I think, but they must have been doped up <sic>)>>

It was Drago (Germany) would ran away from Madawaska. It was a race to watch. The German's were just brutes.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 6 2008, 11:38 AM 

I believe the Wong's slip from dominance was due to managements not allowing their women paddlers to paddle on both the Montreal Women's team and the Wongs... most of those dominant women left to join Verdun Adren. and still paddle to this day on both Verdun and the recently silver medalist Montreal Women at Malaysia...
Good decision on management

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 6 2008, 12:08 PM 

Such arrogance to assume that the Montreal Women are such an integral part of any team.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 6 2008, 12:14 PM 

Thank the lord! The Montreal Women are the saviors! Verdun is a dominant force thanks to them! Sorry honey, that kind of attitude will kill teams. I guess that's why Montreal has fallen off the map.

 
 
old man

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 6 2008, 12:22 PM 

God, what a bunch of wankers!!!!

What was was. It was great and everyone got out of it exactly what they put in and deserved. Get over yourselves already.

yeah dude. it`s the old man. Call me and let`s get some brews...the women are always invited. We still love you ladies!!!

 
 
What???

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 6 2008, 12:27 PM 

``Thank the lord! The Montreal Women are the saviors! Verdun is a dominant force thanks to them! ``

from the results from Malay and the better than you attitude Wong managers did the right thing probabbly too late too. Verdun sucks and the women elite got killed by 5 seconds. And you are proud of your silver placeing? What egos man!!!

Wongs better off withoutr you and probably will rebuild again without their saviours oh my god how they must miss you

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 6 2008, 12:32 PM 

Hmmm I'm not affiliated with any of these teams but I remember the Montreal women being pretty fast...

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 6 2008, 1:32 PM 

All you have to do is click on 'Power Ranking'


 
 
frmer WET member

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 8 2008, 10:03 AM 

everyone knows that the women`s team was fast in the past but there was always rumours of being helped by wrong methods and you could tell by their manly features. I became disillusioned by the team and quit in disgust by the attitudes. I am not surprised by the arrogance of the replies. Now adays the girls are skinny and not as muscled as we used to be and so they are slower.

later

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 28 2008, 3:34 PM 

I believe the subject was what ever happened to this club ... so what ever happened to GTDBC ? Who did they merge or become ?

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 28 2008, 3:54 PM 

What ever happened to Huron Canoe/Kayak?

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 28 2008, 4:10 PM 

Didn't Huron sort of morph into Eat Trout?

GTDBC was basically Fred, Blake, and some other dragon boat types (Imperial Dragons?). I think that after Fred left the group folded out of frustration of dealing with the TCBA. Maybe some went on to form the National Dragon Boat Club and the seniors program. At least, I think that's how it went.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 28 2008, 5:09 PM 

The Montreal Women Really could never compete with the women from Toronto. I don't think they had enough heart to compete at the level that the Toronto women were at, thats why they could never beat them. As for the Wongs, once they got their medals from rome (with a 90% stacked crew of flatties), it went down hill from there. Once the flatties got their medals and left the team, the Wongs just became a boat filled with wannabees, who just wanted to ride on the Wong name and not put in the hard work! Hence they never qualified again to compete at the World Club Crews!

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 28 2008, 5:18 PM 

^anada wanna B^

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 28 2008, 6:52 PM 

speaking of lost crews, what happened to the Mississauga Canoe Club?

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 28 2008, 7:43 PM 

Seems to me that all of the great teams from a few years ago were canoe racers who hoped in a dragon boat and went like stink compared to the rest of us. Wongs , MCC , Madawaska , Huron were all in that group. Most of the best paddlers got board with DB and went back or on to other canoe racing , outrigger or marathon.
The great teams (at leastin Ont.) today are real DBers that have finally gotten very good. Mayfair etc. The first generation of really first class true dragon boaters.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 28 2008, 8:22 PM 

wow. clearly the people who have left the wongs and the women never really matured.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 28 2008, 9:20 PM 

Mayfair are not true Dragon Boat paddlers - where did you even think that was true

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

August 29 2008, 3:40 PM 

Mayfair trains as a team several times a week and has for several years with a relatively stable roster. Some of their paddlers are from a sprint racing background , many started as dragon boaters but dragon boating is the main sport of all their paddlers today.
This is what I call real dragon boaters.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

September 4 2008, 9:17 AM 

"many started as dragon boaters but dragon boating is the main sport of all their paddlers today.
This is what I call real dragon boaters."

The really good dragon boaters do not train dragon boat as their main source of fitness. Why? Because its the best way to injure yourself. You will find them in outrigger, marathon or sprint canoe.


 
 
Anonymous

yes and no

September 4 2008, 10:03 AM 

"The really good dragon boaters do not train dragon boat as their main source of fitness."

Okay, dragon boat paddling should never be anyone's "main source of fitness".

Most good teams believe that you come into the boat fit, not use the boat to become fit. But that would apply to many other paddling sports as well.

Sprint canoeing can also take a heavy toll on muscles and joints. Maybe that explains why the top sprint paddlers are often excellent runners. Get fit, then paddle.

Maybe it's different with outrigger and marathon. Lower potential for injury based on different stroke mechanics, load on the joints, etc. Mind you there are a lot of repetitive strain injuries in those sports as well.

But eventually any team that wants to do well in dragon boat racing has to train a significant amount of time in dragon boats. I remember a significant Toronto area team bragging about how little they trained in dragon boats leading up to a world championships. They didn't do so well. Throwing a bunch of paddlers into the boat at the last minute used to work in the past, but not so much these days.


 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

September 4 2008, 10:03 AM 

What makes you think that the Hydrophobic Dragons just do dragonboat.


 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

September 4 2008, 10:54 AM 

"The really good dragon boaters do not train dragon boat as their main source of fitness. Why? Because its the best way to injure yourself. You will find them in outrigger, marathon or sprint canoe."

To perform at your best, assuming you have already developed good feel for the water through small boats, I would argue that the best recipe for Dragon Boat per week, during season is:
1. 4 Dragon Boat Practices / or 3 + small boat
2. 2 Weights, focus on power, compound exercises
3. 2 Intense Interval Cardio - not using paddling muscles.

I agree that a lot of the fitness comes from outside a Dragon Boat. However, without a good chunk of time in a DB you certainly won't be at your best. Paddling an OC or C1 is not nearly a perfect substitue for DB.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

September 4 2008, 10:36 PM 

Whatever happened to the Mercedes team or Tempest?

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

September 5 2008, 1:59 PM 

Tempest went into supporting the Imps from what I hear.

 
 
Anonymous

Where'd they go?

September 5 2008, 2:18 PM 

I think Mercedes went to an employee based roster for a year and then gave it up completely the next.

Wasn't this around 2002-2003?

 
 
Anonymous

Where'd they go?

September 5 2008, 2:18 PM 

I think Mercedes went to an employee based roster for a year and then gave it up completely the next.

Wasn't this around 2002-2003?

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

September 5 2008, 8:25 PM 

"Sprint canoeing can also take a heavy toll on muscles and joints. Maybe that explains why the top sprint paddlers are often excellent runners. Get fit, then paddle."

Many sprint canoe/kayers train twice a day 6 days a week on the water. That's 12 workouts in small boats and then add crew boats. You will not see dragonboaters doing the same thing.

Not only excellent runners but also cross country skiers. Running is not a substitute for on water training as I think you are suggesting. Its in addition to.

"Get fit, then paddle."

I don't think so. Get fit by paddling and maintain it through weights and other dryland training.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

September 5 2008, 8:48 PM 

"Get fit by paddling"

Huh? I think the other person had it right, fit then paddle. You don't get fit by paddling, you do other things to get fit.

 
 
Alf Garnettt

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

September 6 2008, 10:37 AM 

Some of you people are so incredibly dumb. A sprint paddler gets fit by doing a ton of different things - both on the water and on land. You people speak in such absolutes - "get fit then paddle" or "get fit by paddling" it makes me laugh. With every post like that you show how little you really know about paddling training.

Sorry for sounding off but you'll find that a little bit of knowledge is not the position to sound like an expert from, unless of course you want to invite ridicule.

Cheers.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

September 6 2008, 10:48 AM 

who's your girlfriend
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who's your girlfriend forum poster
you don't have one
you're a wanker
you're a wanker forum poster

 
 
Anonymous

Hey Alf

September 6 2008, 3:03 PM 

Go F#ck yourself.

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

September 6 2008, 5:36 PM 

"You don't get fit by paddling, you do other things to get fit."

Okay bozo.


 
 
Anonymous

Re: Whatever happened to this Club

September 6 2008, 8:33 PM 

There's only one way and that's your way. what a bunch of jokes.
I agree with the above poster who said commented on how idiotic it is to talk in absolutes.
You should have stayed in school.

 
 
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