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  • Trygve's reply to the Human Services in Melbourne
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      Posted Jul 13, 2001 4:25 PM

      From Trygve Bauge
      Life-Extension Systems
      Pob. 59, Hovseter,
      N-0705, Oslo, Norway
      Ph (47)22-14-80-78
      trygveb@powertech.no



      To Peter Gamble, the Cemeteries and Crematoria Section
      of the Victorian Department of Human Services (Australia).


      To Peter,

      Thanks for the e-mail.
      I share your impression that Elizabeth Kostadinova and her mother and sister
      are not in agreement as to what to do,
      and I too am concerned that Elizabeth might not afford to have a facility
      set up in Norway for the long run storage of her father.

      At the same time she seems quite dedicated to do something to better preserve her father for posterity.

      I have thus suggested that she consider asking her mother for permission to
      preserve some tissue samples, in case cloning of DNA fragments from dead
      tissue samples ever becomes possible, legal and affordable.

      Is it the mother (the wife of the deceased) that has the say in the matter,
      or do Elizabeth and her sister also have to approve of any action taken on
      their father's corpse?
      Maybe all that is needed is for the mother and the other sister to sign that
      they donate the body or the tissue samples to Elizabeth, to be preserved,
      stored or used at her discretion?

      If Elizabeth and her mother and sister agree to preserve some tissue &/or
      bloood samples,
      they could easily inquire at the hospital that treated the father.
      If tissue or blood samples still exist these could easily be frozen and
      stored at the hospital or at various facilities in the United States. Cost
      of storage should not exceed USD 1,000, plus shipping in dry ice.

      If however, no tissue or blood sample exist, and they agree to do so, they
      could possibly apply to have the body exhumed, so that 10 to 20 small tissue
      samples could be taken from the dead body's leg or thigh (skin & muscle).
      Each incission would be a few millimeter in diameter and could easily be
      done by an undertaker using a small scalpel. Whereupon the body could be
      burried again.

      These small samples could then be put on 20 small cryogenic vials. (the
      smallest possible, hardly much larger than the tissue samples). The vials
      could then be frozen using water ice, and dry ice. And then be shipped in
      dry ice to an existing storage facility in the United States.

      Sincerely,

      Trygve Bauge

      Ps. If Elizabeth and her mother and sister agree upon storing a few cell
      samples or for that matter the whole body, then I will let you know. Then
      they will have to prove that they can afford it, and then we have to set up,
      negotiate and sign a contract. I will not accept the body here in Norway
      without a signed contract and full prepaid financing of what it would cost
      to set up a suitable bio bank facility here in Norway.

      I am glad to hear that the body was embalmed.
      If the Kostadinovas can agree upon what to do, and can afford to do what
      they then agree upon, it might be of value to have the body exhumed and have
      the body &/or the tissue samples stored on dry ice in Melbourne as soon as
      possible thereafter so to slow down any further deterioration. That would
      give us the necessasry time to set up everything to receive him &/or the
      cell samples elsewhere.


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