*PULE HOWSER getting in a barfight--and winning.
*WORLD'S OLDEST WOMAN in her youth, looking very attractive.
*FATHER TIME clean-shaven.
*ANDREW DICE CLAY, BOBCAT GOLTHWAIT, and/or GEORGE CARLIN appearing as historical figures on "Histeria".
*FETCH raising his leg (surprisingly....)
*CHIT CHATTERSON or SAMMY MELMAN not with some sort of angle/sleazy deal.
Maybe Lydia should consider taking a lover. If she'd relax a little bit, maybe she wouldn't be so cranky and scissor-happy.
Is Lucky Bob really stupid or is he just bashful? Some have suggested he and Cho-Cho should be lovers...but will she have to do all the work and seduce this oblivious boy, or does he surprise her by making the first move? He can't speak too well, but maybe he writes like Shakespeare. I'm reminded of a line in "Snow White and the Three Stooges" where the boys tell Snowy how much they care about her, but Curly-Joe says nothing. Handing her a small posey, he admits, "I say it with flowers." "Only one?" she asks. "I get tongue-tied." I wonder if that would actually work on a woman....
Bob probably does write like Shakespeare. Often times that dumb guy you know actually is a genius in some intulectual form you'd never think to see them in...I can't remember a real life example I had to post. Oh well. As for Cho seducing him...that, in my opinion, is going to happen.
Dustin Hoffman's character in "Rain Man" comes to mind. And I've read about several cases of savantism in my psych texts (one guy with a room-temp. IQ apparently memorized the entire bus schedule of a mid-size metropolis). I've noted in one or two H! eps that Bob can play piano fairly well....
...remember THPS? She had better luck with the guys than Char. Or was supposed to've @ least. She said that Charity should've had her role. She was with Bob, Stalin tried to seduce her, & she seduced Toast. As Toast would say, twisted!
The reason why C.C is so sucessful is due to the character she is potraying. (Susan Sarandon's "Janet Weiss".) And Janet Weiss was though despite her initially sweet attitude was known as the slut of the group. And I thought I do the casting differently. (I didn't do Miss Info because frankly that would've been too obvious and I'll get to charity later.)
OK you probably remember when I briefly had Froggo & Charity do Brad and Janet for a while. Technically I was thinking of doing the roles in a "personal" looks department. (Another words having Loud & Charity as Brad and Janet and Pule Houser as Eddie. Though it would've been intresting to hear Frank Welker sing that song.)
In fact here is a different idea of the cast list of the fic.
Stalin= Frank&Furter
Brad= Loud Kiddington
Janet= Charity Bazaar
Father Time= Riff Raff
WOW (with red hair)= Magenta
Pepper Mills= Columbia
Froggo= Rocky
FDR= Dr. Von Scott
Pule Houser= Eddie
Different isn't it? Though I am aware that Pepper maintained her role. (And the reason why I picked Froggo instead of Toast is because to lessen the akwardness in that "Toucha Toucha Touch me" song number. And yes they both go at eachover in that "R Rated" fashion. *snickers*)
Well I hope this helps though I wonder if I am the only one here who has actually seen the movie?
Yeah, I know that we just can't choose chars because we like 'em and thus they get a starring role: we had a little discussion on that in the old board's Shrek crossover. I will try to choose chars based on thier personalities from now on for fics/crossovers.
I read the plot of TRHPS...but I forget most of it now. Sorry. I will try to see if my video store has it, though.
Hm...why not make a non-abridged, truer-to-film version while you're at it, Pokejed?
Though I was actually kind of hoping that someone else will do it as to see on how they'd perform. (Either you or JS or possibly DR.BELCH.) But if I have to I will. Though it might be troublesome towards my part since it took a week for me to make the one we all know now? Personally I sometimes wonder if I should make a spoof of the REALLY obscure sequel of RHPS known as "Shock Treatment". Its a spoof on 80's pop culture instead of how RHPS did the 30's-50's. It was a flop mainly because only one character returned as hiself from the first movie. (Ralph Hapschatt the married husband during the first few minutes of the movie. Curry, Bostwick, Sarandon, Adams, Hinwood, and Meatloaf were not in the movie at all. Though O'Brien, Quinn, and Little Nell were they had different roles. It was hated by the critics and unlike its infamous prodesscor it STAYED a bomb. It gave RHPS fans some mixed thoughts some liked it while others were seriosuly wondering why O'brien even bothered in the first place? And just in case you didn't know Richard O'brien is not only Riff raff in the original he was also the writer and very creator of it. Since this was based on the original play that was in London during the 1960's. (So yes RHPS is from England and now Monty Python isn't the only bit of strange british humor we have.) Not only it was a tribute to the kinky glam rock that happenend back then it was also a satricial tribute to the many movies he saw during his youth. (Its kind of like a musical mixture of Indiann Jones and that 1994 Tim Burton movie "Ed Wood".) The play and the movie didn't do well at first but their "king of cult classic" fame soon came in. After all aside from Mel Brook's "The Producers" it was the only known crazed comical musical at the time.
Now before I continue on giving the whole lifestory here I will give a different suggestion. How about if any of you guys are going to put a reference to "THPS" in your next fanfic? How about you do a modern "Super writers" and have Richard O'brien as one of them and of course do have Lydia Karioke complain about that. Its alright if any of you don't want to but it was indeed a idea.
Pokejedservo
(P.S: Well we all know that Curry, Bostwick and Sarandon still have a good career. Quinn and Nell and adams well not as much. Hinwood quited acting and Gray is dead. But ROB is still out there. He has somewhat small appearances in modern films such as last year's "Dungeons & Dragons" and 1997's "Dark City" and more.)
-my next non-historical fic. I wanted to do one for some time as a homage, but did not quite know how to do it.
I think the sequel spoof you want to write would be okay-I never knew much about Rocky Horror till your post and I read the fic long before, so it would not be too terrible a loss-I barely caught any refs on the show to pop culture till I read the F.R.O.G.G.O as a paralell example.
Pity the sequel flopped-I think bad sequels always would ruin the whole majesty of a popular thing-we may not always know what happens to chars, and in this case, 80s culture, in my humble opinion, was a spoof itself on culture (thus, I should think the difficult task ST faced). Period.
And I can see on what you mean about ST. (And just in case you like to know I haven't had a chance to see it yet though that could change.) Though I made a mistake about ST it appears that Charles Gray was in it after all. Well to quote Loud "Imagine my embarassment". Though thanks for your consideration there.
So you thought such a situation involving two children would be ameliorated by making one of the kids a teenager, oooo-kay. I can see the merits (if there are any) in the original casting as it plays to our favorite triangle as well as the little buddy. Otoh, I can't imagine Froggo repeatedly shouting "Histeria!" & getting socked in the ribs. A Lucky Bob-Cho Cho-Toast triangle would be interesting, as would Pule as Eddie. But if you like being Warner-like in complaining & breaking the 4th wall, Father Time has nothing on Slappy Squirrel in the A! spoof of RHPS.
Toast would've been more of a Rocky Horror then Froggo. After all the voice does contradict things. (Not too mention that Froggo is short and chubby while Toast is not muscular but he is tall and lean. And contradicting hair colors and style is one thing but contradicting body structure is a bit of a challenge.) And the triangle that you suggested might work. And who wouldn't want to see Frank Welker do that kind of Meatloaf impersanation? And by the way I am just asking but have you actually seen the movie? Because I am possibly the only person in this bboard that has actually seen the movie. I'm jsut curious but still...
Toast would've been more of a Rocky Horror then Froggo. After all the voice does contradict things. (Not too mention that Froggo is short and chubby while Toast is not muscular but he is tall and lean. And contradicting hair colors and style is one thing but contradicting body structure is a bit of a challenge.) And the triangle that you suggested might work. And who wouldn't want to see Frank Welker do that kind of Meatloaf impersanation? And by the way I am just asking but have you actually seen the movie? Because I am possibly the only person in this bboard that has actually seen the movie. I'm jsut curious but still...
Yes, I have seen it, once. On tv. And yes, I know I'm not getting the whole interactive communal party experience thingie, but I don't go to movies. I have read enough about it to figure some things out about it, tho. And I've read this version, the A! version, & the Rocky & Bullwinkle version.
Personally I wish I could see it in theaters but I wonder if I could find one nearby? Well I have read the R&B version which is indeed quite good. Though as for the A! one well its not bad and I'm certainly all for difference but frankly instead of trying to mix the flavors of both A! and RHPS. It just mianly stayed with A! and mainly just reassures the readers that it had anything to do with RHPS in the first place. Now it is certainly not the worst RHPS spoof at all but it is not exactly the best either.
I've seen it several times...and I don't think I could outdo any of the RHPS spoofs out there. Though I was thinking that Tim Curry's Frankenfurter personality would be perfect for George Gordon, Lord Byron--British, effeminate, and swinging both ways. Just picture Dr. Frankenfurter with a club foot and it'd be pretty spot-on. As I said before, Byron was good friends with Mary Shelley (played briefly by Charity in "Legends of the Purple Prose") and her husband Percy Bysse) (possibly played by Loud). Now...Shelley, while spending the night with Byron and Mr. Shelley in a castle while on vacation, had the dream that inspired her to write *Frankenstein*, and RHPS is sort of a modern version of the tale...you see where it could go.
Byron is interesting in that despite his deformity he was strangely handsome--women would literally throw themselves into his bed (though I've read his true love was a choirboy). One of his conquests, Lady Catherine Lamb, reacted badly when he dumped her, stalked him for years and once tried to committ suicide by stabbing herself with a penknife (the scandal over that drove her and Mr. Lamb from London for good). Byron was married for a year before his wife left him, taking their infant daughter with her, for his eccentricities and his affairs.
Byron was also a great fan of Napoleon, feeling they were kindred spirits.
And to be honest the reason why I picked Stalin instead of Lord Byron well I actually never heard of Lord Byron until recently. And belive me if I knew that the structure might've been different. But then again I don't remember the communists having their own musical so why should the Nazi's have all the fun? Though I am aware of the story of Frankenstein. Though I am aware that if somebody ACTUALLY tries to make "THPS" an actual movie it probably won't have Curry as Stalin. Curry didn't hate RHPS but frankly he never really liked some of the attention he got. (Heck I use to wonder if Curry was the voice of HIM from the powerpuff girls. I know they don't have the same voice but hey.) Though I sometimes wonder if I could do something for the Mel Brooks classic "The Producers". HEck maybe I could do a Musical for the fascists. (Hey the communists and Nazi's have them we should be equal to our murderous scumbags.)
And don't worry about outdoing any of the RHPS spoofs there are plenty of them. They range from Pokemon, Digimon, Rocky & Bullwinkle, South Park, Star Trek, Red Dwarf, Animaniacs and more. There were even plans for different shows like Dragon Ball Z, Rugrats and even Ed, Edd 'n Eddy. (Though nobody wanted to picture Eddy dressed as Furter though Ed despite his lack of hair is perfect to be Rocky Horror. Heck Ed sounds like Rocky Horror. Matt Hill the guy who voices Ed even looks like Peter Hinwood. I mean am I the only one who thinks Ed can sing like Rocky Horror?)
Anyways thanks for this intresting thought there Dr. BELCH. Though I wonder that if I should do another film spoof I should do one that isn't a crazy musical. (Like the classic "Producers" or the recent "Hedwig and the angry itch" or stuff like that.)
"Rocky Horror" runs on ComCent every so often. I love it, but my mother doesn't understand that sort of humor.
If I did decide to write a sketch on Byron, I'd just use Curry's character of Frankenfurther as a model, not try to redo the entire RHPS script. Basically it would have the feel of a typical H! sketch--Father Time introduces us to Byron and talks a little about him...of course, much of the filthier details would have to be glossed over, like his alcoholism or the fact that he was laid up at least once with venereal disease because of his affairs. It could be mentioned/illustrated that his wife Anne (played maybe by Molly Pitcher) walked out on him and took their daughter (played by Big Fat Baby Girl) after only a year of marriage, claiming he was insane and abusive.
Now my concern would be that the part about Mary Shelley and Frankenstein would overshadow Byron and would probably be material for a seperate sketch about her. It's interesting that if not for Byron's suggestion of a storytelling game to combat boredom during a rainstorm and Mary being unable to come up with something on the spot, then going to bed all in a dither, the novel might never have been written.
And of course, how to tastefully handle Carolyn(erroneously called Catherine above) Lamb? Her behavior is right out of "Fatal Attraction"--all that's missing is a boiling rabbit.
Possible joke--Pepper mistakes Byron for Waynehead, as they both wore a large weighted shoe and brace to treat a deformed foot.
