I have noticed two things recently re-reading the books. They might be important or they may just be discrepancies.

1) In PS (SS-USA) Hagrid tells harry that lily and james were head boy and girl in their time at Hogwarts. But in OOTP lupin says that James was never a prefect. I would think that only prefects can become head boy.Mr weasly seems to hint this when she tells ron that he now has a good chance of being head boy. Prolly nothing but it got me thinking.

2) If snape is a spy for dumbledore and he is pretending to be a death eater to vodly...in PS snape tries to stop quirell from getting the stone. Surely voldy would know about this since he was living in quriell...or quirell would have told him...maybe voldy knows snape is a spy and will use this to has advantage in the future or maybe snape is not a spy at all....or I guess he could have used his mind control stuff to stop quirlell spilling the beans or vodly sensing him.

1) JK already explained this. She said you don't have to be a Prefect to become Head Boy. I'm betting it helps, but it's not a guarentee.

2) Occlumency. Snape could easily say that he assumed Quirrel was after the stone for himself, and had Snape known where he was he would have gotten the stone for him personally.

I've got another question. If James is in Gryffindor (I think it he is at least) and he was head boy, could Lily still be in Gryffindor and still be head girl? If not, then waht house was Lily in? Does anyone think it could be Slytherin? Lily might actually be a decendant of Slytherin. That would be funny if James was a direct decendant to Gryffindor and Lily a direct decendant of Slytherin.

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"You too are about to learn what happens to wrongdoing at my school."
Filch cracked his whip threatingly.
"You know what? said Fred. "I dont think we are. George, I think we've outgrown
full-time education."
"Yeah, I've been feeling that way myself," said George lightly.
"Time to test our talents in the real world, d'you reckon?" asked Fred.
"Definitely," said George.
And before Umbridge could say a word, they raised their wands and said together,
"Accio Brooms!"...

"Give her hell from us, Peeves!"

If life gives you lemons...THROUGH THEM AT SOMEONE!

my bet is that lily was in ravenclaw, although i am not 100% sure

"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

Ok, first of all, Lily was in Gryffindor. JKR has said this MANY times in interviews. Secondly - she was a MUGGLEBORN. How could she be a descendant of Slytherin if she was born from muggles?

Lily has to be a descendant of some wizard if she has magic in her, and i agree she cant be a direct descendant of Slytherin, but she could still be related to him. There is something special about her and harry's eyes, JKR has said that many times. Also there is always the theory that Lily was adopted. You never know.

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"You too are about to learn what happens to wrongdoing at my school."
Filch cracked his whip threatingly.
"You know what? said Fred. "I dont think we are. George, I think we've outgrown
full-time education."
"Yeah, I've been feeling that way myself," said George lightly.
"Time to test our talents in the real world, d'you reckon?" asked Fred.
"Definitely," said George.
And before Umbridge could say a word, they raised their wands and said together,
"Accio Brooms!"...

"Give her hell from us, Peeves!"

If life gives you lemons...THROUGH THEM AT SOMEONE!

Lily was Muggleborn. That means her parents were muggles, and probably most of the familly she knows about. Now, I suppose it to be a possibility somewhere down the lines of past relitives to have a magicle family member, but I HIGHLY doubt it to be a relitive of Salazer Slytherin. As for the adoption, I suppose it possible, but if it were true, it would have surly come up by now so I doubt it also.

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When you say that Lily was adopted, you mean that Petunia was adopted as well, right?

I dont think she was adopted.

I'm saying this because we know that Lily's blood runs in Harry's and Petunia's veins (as DD explained in Book 5), and that's how he managed to keep Harry alive all these years: Voldy shed Lily's blood to kill Harry, and the same blood is in Petunia, and in that place Voldy cant touch Harry (that was until GoF, anyway)...

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Bellatrix DEAD!!
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"They run off eckeltricity, do they?" said
Mr. Weasley knowledgeably. "Ah yes, I can
see the plugs. I collect plugs," he added to
Uncle Vernon."And batteries. Got a very
large collection of batteries. My wife
thinks I'm mad, but there you are."
-GoF-
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Quotes:

"It is our choices that make us who we are. Not our abilities."- Albus Dumbledore

"There is no excuse for looking down on someone, unless you're helping them up."- Rev. Jesse Jackson

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"Just remember: If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off." Jewels of Wisdom

Righto Narc, i forgot JK mentioned lily was a Grif. The chances of Lily being related to Slytherin are pretty slim. But the Sorting hat was considering putting harry into slytherin, even tho he was half blood like voldie.

"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

That's been explained. Harry could have gone to slytherin - not because of his blood, but the fact that Voldie had accidently passed some of himself into Harry the night his parents were killed. Like being a Parselmouth for example.

IF (and I fully stress the if) - Lily had a relation somewhere once, I think it would have been the accountant cousin of Molly's Ron spoke of in book 1. They all have red hair like her, right?

But I think that the point JKR is trying to make with both Lily and Hermione is blood isn't as important as the Slytherins try and make it to be - they are both tallented muggleborns without any wizarding blood. AND like someone else said - she shares blood with Petunia, so how the hell could she be adopted?

It IS possible that they both be adopted but Highly unlikely that it actually happened. It would make for too confusing a storyline - remembering that it is in fact a childrens story, it cant get too complex.





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Exactly. And in all honesty, it seems whenever JKR has been caught in an obvious mistake she gets all mysterious and says it's important or makes a flimsy excuse. Look at Marcus Flint being in the 3rd book; he was a "burly 6th year" in the first book. She sayid in an interview "Oh, he failed a year". Book one Hermione said that if you didn't pass you didn't stay.

She's too much of a perfectionist at times.

Lol, I have to say that the green eyes is my favourite theory:

'Lily has green eyes, therefore she is evil and possibly descended from Slytherin'.

I think that Petunia is a squib. That would explain her hatred towards Lily and her knowledge of dementors and Azkaban.

Maybe their parents were killed opposing Voldie and they were adopted by muggles. But then they pretended that Lily was muggle-born because she came from a family that opposed Voldie, protecting her.

Could be anything, really.

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I used to believe in and push the thoery around of Petunia being a squib and that prehaps it wasn't Lilly and Petunia who where adopted, but at least one or both of thier parents. (Either mom and/or dad was adopted from a very young age and knew nothing about their wizarding background. Maybe one of them was a squib and it was known from birth and or something, which is why they would have never been informed of Hogwarts or contacted by wizards, etc. And maybe that's why they were put up for adoption in the first place?).
Anyway, I still believe pretty much the same thing could have happend, but with a minor change. It was their father who was adopted. He was adopted into the Evan's family. He also had a brother, who could have either been adopted or be the true son of thier parents, it doesn't matter. Anyway, Petunia and Lilly have a cousin (from their fathers brother) who is not of the same blood line (due to the adoption of their father) who carried on the Evans name down a different branch of the family. Therefore, Harry could still have distance living relatives who aren't blood relatives. (Dumbleodre stated that Petunia and Dudley were his only living BLOOD relations, if memory serves me right). This could explain the young Evans boy that Dudley beat up, he is actually a distant though non-blood relative of Lilly and Petunia. And it could be that they (the Dursley's and Harry) and no knowledge of this side of the family, or they just never think/talk about them for some reason, etc.

oops, "have no knowledge" is what I meant, not "and no knowledge")*

Lily and Petunia have to have the same mother because Dumbledore explains in OOTP that Harry is protected as long as he calls the place where his mother's blood dwells home. Therefore Petunia had to be related by blood to Lily. So ethier both Lily and Petunia were not adopted or they were blood sisters who were both adopted by the same parents.

Wow, CJ, that's a strange theory!
It could be true, though I think it's a bit too complicated for a children's book.
As of right now, I think JK put it in just to get us worked up over nothing, or that Mark is really just a cousin adn that he was sent with the Dursleys because they were closer relatives. could be anything, though.

D.B.N.G.T.M.
Sirius i luv you
Bellatrix DEAD!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"They run off eckeltricity, do they?" said
Mr. Weasley knowledgeably. "Ah yes, I can
see the plugs. I collect plugs," he added to
Uncle Vernon."And batteries. Got a very
large collection of batteries. My wife
thinks I'm mad, but there you are."
-GoF-
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quotes:

"It is our choices that make us who we are. Not our abilities."- Albus Dumbledore

"There is no excuse for looking down on someone, unless you're helping them up."- Rev. Jesse Jackson

“Whatever you are looking for is in you (the rest is still in the fridge)” Comix

"Just remember: If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off." Jewels of Wisdom

Maybe so but I still think that maybe something like that could have happend. But with JK, you never know.