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Harry Potter: Theories & Predictions

January 2 2004 at 7:01 PM
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Upon reading the first of the 5 Harry Potter books I have noticed that there is a lot of symbolism, foreshadowing, and irony that reveal events that will occur in the rest of the story if the reader is keen enough to spot them. Below are a few theories and predictions I have formulated along with a few justifications for them.

1) In the seventh book, Dumbledore will die.

The reason I believe this is because of a foreshadowing in the fifth book, at the end when Voldemort approaches Harry near the fountain in the Ministry of Magic. As the green light from the Avada Kedavra curse is heading towards Harry, it is suddenly blocked by a piece of a statue from the fountain that is sent flying through the air and Harry turns to see Dumbledore "in front of the Golden Gates". I believe that this is a foreshadowing of Dumbledore's death and ascent into heaven.

2) In the seventh book, Harry will vanquish Voldemort, without the use of his wand, but will die in the process. Harry will die first, at Voldemort's wand, and then Voldemort will die. As soon as Voldemort dies, Harry will return to life again. During his brief period of death, he will see his parents, Sirius, Dumbledore, and everyone else that he knows who have died. Dumbledore will tell him that it is not his time yet and that he needs to return to the other world, on the other side of the veil.

The reason I believe this is because of a foreshadowing in the first book, in the chapter "The Mirror of Erised". Harry and Ron go to the mirror and Harry sees his family. Ron looks into it and sees an older version of himself as Head Boy and the Captain of the Quidditch team. He says to Harry, "Do you think this mirror tells the future?" and Harry says, "How can it? Both my parents are dead." I believe that what the boys see in the mirror is a foreshadowing of what will happen in the seventh and final book. I think also that Dumbledore, at the end of the chapter, sees himself with his family, who Voldemort killed long before Harry was born, and does not want to tell Harry this when Harry asks him what he sees in the mirror.
There is also another reason I believe prediction #2 and it has to do with the prophecy and Dumbledore's Phoenix. The reason the prophecy states "...for neither can live while the other survives..." is because both Harry and Voldemort are linked to the Phoenix by their wands. In the mythology of the Phoenix, only one Phoenix can exist at a time and once it dies, its offspring is reborn out of its ashes. The Phoenix represents the constant cycle of life and death or in Asian philosophy, the yin and the yang. We notice that there is a reflection of this in the lives of Harry and Voldemort. Harry represents the promise of life in his constant attempts to save people's lives and Voldemort represents the "Flight of Death" (In French, "Vol de Mort") in his relentless pursuit to take them. Because the Phoenix represents the constant cycle of life and death, it represents immortality which is what Voldemort tries to achieve through all his magical efforts or "magical transformations", but fails because, in this pursuit, he becomes something that is not truly alive. We notice that Voldemort survives to the point where he tries to kill Harry as a baby but instead is ripped from his body, loses his power and becomes a shadow (not a ghost as Dumbledore says "Not truly being alive, he cannot be killed"). Then in the Goblet of Fire, Voldemort is resurrected (similar to the Phoenix) using the bone of his father, flesh of his servant, and blood of his foe, Harry. When Dumbledore hears this, Harry sees a "look of triumph" on his face. I think this means that Voldemort can now be killed because of the simple fact that the blood, in the bloodline that he shed when he killed Lily, which protected Harry at the beginning, is now coursing through Voldemort's veins. He can now kill Harry with his killing curse but in doing so he will kill himself and release the power inside Harry, the "life-force" that resides in the Department of Mysteries, that Harry has in such quantities. This is why I think Harry will die first. When Voldemort dies, the same power that kills Voldemort will restore Harry to a new life, so Harry will be just like the Phoenix that overcomes death, or more literally, the "Flight of Death" ("Vol de Mort"), and is reborn.

3) When Harry and Voldemort have their last battle, Harry will lure Voldemort to him, instead of going "seeking" for Voldemort.

I don't think that it is a coincidence that Harry is the youngest seeker in a century and is also the one who seeks, or is lured by, Voldemort into danger. This is the case in all 5 books so far except for PoA (but even in PoA, he finds Sirius). I think we will see a point where Harry is no longer the Quidditch seeker and this will be a foreshadowing to his and Voldemort's final battle. Harry will lure Voldemort to him. The reason I believe this is from the Goblet of Fire when he is fighting the dragon with his "diversionary tactics". The text describes the dragon with "eyes with slits for pupils" and that it "sways like a snake before its charmer". Harry says to it, "Come on. Come and get me." I believe that this will be his strategy at the end, after Dumbledore is killed. He will be so angry with Voldemort, he won't care about dying.

4) Ron will become Head Boy and the Captain of the Quidditch team. He and Hermione will become a couple.

The reason I believe this is because of a foreshadowing in the first book, in the chapter "The Mirror of Erised". Harry and Ron go to the mirror and Harry sees his family. Ron looks into it and sees an older version of himself as Head Boy and the Captain of the Quidditch team. He says to Harry, "Do you think this mirror tells the future?" and Harry says, "How can it? Both my parents are dead." I believe that what the boys see in the mirror is a foreshadowing of what will happen in the seventh and final book.

5) Hermione will become Head Girl and will succeed with her Society for the Promotion of Elfish Welfare. There will be an Elf revolution.

The reason I believe this is because, in the Goblet of Fire, both Harry and Ron keep telling her to give up her quest for revenge against Rita Skeeter but she doesn't and instead traps Rita in her own deceit. Harry and Ron also tell her to give up her pursuit of Elfish Welfare but she refuses. I think that she will succeed with this too. It will end up being her profession and a new branch of the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures (although I think Mr. Weasley will change the name of the department). The last part about the Elf revolution is just a hunch and I thought I would add it for fun.

6) Cornelius Fudge and Percy with be killed. Arthur Weasley will become Minister of Magic and will make a new wizarding holiday called "Hug a Muggle" day or something.

In the Order of the Phoenix, Ron makes a joke about his dad becoming the Minister of Magic. Everytime Ron, Harry, or the twins joke about a something, it is usually significant later on. For example, the twins joke about Ron becoming like Percy and being made a prefect and then in the fifth book, it happened. Also, in the same book, Harry and Ron made all those "phony" predictions for Professor Trelawney's class that all came true.

7) McGonagall will become Hogwart's headmistress after Dumbledore's death.

8) Snape will betray Dumbledore.

9) Wormtail will redeem himself and save Harry but will be killed by Voldemort for doing so.

10) Harry and Luna will become a couple and Harry will become an Auror and work for the Ministry.

 
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January 2 2004, 7:20 PM 

rather far fetched, but maybe possible, most of your theory's don't work out, but i do not have the time to nit pick the hell out of them.

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January 3 2004, 1:54 AM 

I DEFINITELY agree with your #8 that Snape will betray Dumbledore. We've discussed that A LOT here, and I am a firm believer that Harry will be right in the end and Dumbledore will prove fallible in his trust. To me, it's just too obvious to have Snape this all-good character who is pure deep down like Dumbledore claims. I think he might have hesitated with Voldemort before, but this time, he will turn on Dumbledore. I can't see Voldemort being truly worse than last time without at least one of the so-called "good guys" turning, and I think it will be Snape.

But I have a problem with how you worded #9, about Wormtail "redeeming" himself. Yes, I agree he'll save Harry and yes, I think he'll be killed by Voldemort for doing so. But that DOES NOT equal redemption. Wormtail can save a hundred lives and I don't think he'll be redeemed...because the situation would never have arised if not for Wormtail in the first place. I HATE when Dumbledore says that Harry was completely right in sparing Wormtail and that he'd be glad he did so one day. Well, if he hadn't saved Wormtail, he'd never need to see the day he'd be glad he saved him. Think about what Voldemort says when he came back. He says that he was just about to give up...as in that he was about to vanish from the world forever...and then Wormtail came along. Why? Because Harry saved his life. If not for Wormtail, Voldemort would never have come back. If Voldemort never came back, Cedric would be alive, Bellatrix and the others would still be in Azkaban, and Sirius would still be alive as well. Anyone who dies because of a Death Eater or Voldemort from here on out dies because of Wormtail. Any destruction comes from Wormtail...everything evil as well. Saving one boy is not going to redeem what he did. Yes, by saving Harry, he'll in turn have Harry destroy Voldemort...but Harry would never have needed to destroy Voldemort if Wormtail hadn't brought Voldemort back...and so many lives were destroyed that cannot be redeemed anymore. There will be no redemption for Wormtail, only a murderer's death when he falls.



 
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January 3 2004, 9:37 AM 

Some of your theroies seem plausible, the seeker one is the one that made me think the most. I'd never heard that. It owuld also make sense if the MIrror of Erised came true. I just didnt see how Ron would ever be quidditch captain when Harry was there to fill the position, of course if say Harry is off the team or perhaps expelled that owuld lead nicely to Ron filling the position because he would be the oldest, most experienced player.

Of course you forgot to mention that at the end of the book that Harry, Ron, and Hermioni drive to Hawaii in hi scar.

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January 3 2004, 10:06 AM 

First, I don't think I've seen your posts before, so if you are new, welcome to the board. 

You have obviously put a lot of thought into your ideas.

1) This is the kind of clever trick that JKR is famous for, so I like it. (Golden Gates analogy)

2) We've discussed Harry's possible death.  You put a different spin on it in that you have Harry 'dying' and then coming back to life.  I sort of like the idea, if its more of a near death experience type of situation.  Of course, everyone wants Harry to find peace and everyone thinks that he needs to reunite with his loved ones to do so, but whats appealing in your theory is that he could get that peace and still live out his life. 

6) Yes, I agree with Percy dying and Arthur becoming Minister

8) We've discussed this one alot.  I think that Snape is probably a free agent and mayl betray Dumbledore for his own motives.

9) JKR has certainly set the stage for Wormtail to save Harry in some way.  I agree with Helen that Wormtail would have to save a lot of people in order to redeem himself for his previous treachery.  Afterall, he went looking for Voldemort and helped to resurrect him.  Even Malfoy didn't go that far. 

10) I'd like to think that Harry gets to carry on as an Auror.


 
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January 3 2004, 12:26 PM 

1. I agree, Dumbledore will die at some point, although not necesarily in the seventh book. I think it will take place at the end of the sixth, or the beginning of the seventh. Harry can't have Dumbledore there to save him. OHH! what if Dumbledore doesnt die, but he is unable to save Harry because he doesn't posess a certain kind of power or something that Harry has, and that certain thing is necesary to beat Voldy. Thus rendering Dumbledore helpless.

2 & 4. I don't know if I agree with the whole mirrior of erised thing. I mean, wasn't it clearly stated at some point that the mirrior DOES NOT show the definite future?

5. That would be pretty cool, and then they make this elf army type thing and fight against Voldey, I would love to see that.

6. Agree, all the way.

8&9. *Insert what Helen said here*

Those are some pretty well thought out theories, a few of them I haven't heard before. I'm impressed.



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January 3 2004, 1:23 PM 

I agree with you i some points but out of different reasons:

1. yes, dumbledore will die in book seven, because after the defeat of voldemort his task is fullfilled...there is nothing left to do for him

2. harry will defeat voldie without his wand but he won't die first because then the prophecy would be fullfilled and voldie had won. but harry might die as well because the spell has worn him out

3. snape will be loyal to dumbledore and might die at the attempt to protect harry in the final battle

4.ron and mione will be a couple

5. harry will stay single, because it would be far too dangerous to love someone. voldie would use his love against him


 
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January 3 2004, 1:31 PM 

Helen, I think you are refering to the "Gollum Syndrome". Can you see the parallelness?

Bilbo let Gollum live, instead of killing him, if he had Gollum wouldn't have gone to Mordor and told the names of the ringbearer and where he lived.

Notice Gandalf also says: "He still has a 'role' to play in all this."

This is how I look at the Wormtail delima. Wormtail will have something to do with the fall of Voldemort, for good.

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January 3 2004, 3:01 PM 

Locke that's a good point.

 
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