After he saw pettigrew blow apart half the street, y'know. He never explained that. And the question never was raised in any of the books, no explanation was given, nothing. Any ideas?
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Re: I've never seen this anywhere else, so I'll say it. Why exactly was Sirius laughing?
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January 9 2004, 2:11 PM
Well its never been officaly anserwed but I'v heard the explanation that he was just kind of in shock that all this had happened to him. His best freinds were dead, their little son killed Voldemort, his other friend was a deatheater, and now he's going to Azkaban. I guess he kind of went momentarily unhinged, and the only thing he could think to do was to laugh.
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January 9 2004, 2:16 PM
I have thought about this recently. I took it as Sirius's laughter in Pettegrew's stupidity. I mean, how was he to know that Peter was still alive? All he saw was a man blow himself up, in an attempts to defend himself. I would find this humourous, especially if the man that blew up was an enemy of mine. Wouldn't you?
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January 9 2004, 3:46 PM
I agree with Locke... (uhh, Peter?) On this one, but I would also say that he was thinking "oh, typical." I don't now, doesn't it sometimes seem like when your having a bad day or week or whatever, and bad things just keep on comming, it eventually gets to the point where everything is so ridicuosly bad that you just have to laugh at it.
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I beleive that Sirius saw Peter kill the Muggles and escape. That's how he knew Peter was alive. I think that he was sort of temporarily crazy. His whole world flipped in a very short time. He organized using Peter and the result was disaster. He would have felt really guilty and angry. Then he thinks that he can kill Peter and at least get revenge. But Peter outwits him. He's standing in the street in the midst of murder and he knows he's been set up and is going to prison. I think he just lost it.
I also think that Peter was not alone in the street, I think he had Death-Eater help. If he didn't, then he's far more talented than we have been giving him credit for.
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I think Sirius likes to lighten the situation when facing an enemy by laughing. He did it against bellitrix.I also think it's a way to intimidate his eneny. Either that or what ya'll said.
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I do not believe that Sirius new of Pettegrews escape, or he would have spoke up about it, and then be labelled mad. Remember Fudge said that Sirius seemed sane in the prison? Also if Sirius knew Pettegrew was alive, I think he would have escaped much earlier.
I think he was just nervous... for example, I accidently insulted my friend and she was REALLY angry... and all i could do was laugh... I didn't want to, but when I did, she blew... She said "do you think this is funny??? Well, I dont!" and stormed off.
So, I guess he was just nervous about what was going to happen to him...???
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He might not have been laughing at all. You know how people are they make something more dramatic then it really was. So it might have started as one person telling another that he laughed (to show how insane he was) and it just spread.
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Temporary insanity. He had come up with this plan to help save his friend's life, and here it backfired. He knew already - he was confronting Peter with the intention to kill - and here he goes screaming accusations at him and blowing up a street and killing people! Of course Sirius would know that nobody would believe him - Dumbledore hadn't wanted Sirius to be their secret keeper in the first place, the Blacks all had a bad name, the irony and the shock would have had to be funny.
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I checked the text in POA and Sirius did know that Peter was alive. He tells Harry and Co. that when he approached Peter in the street, Peter had his wand behind his back and at the appropriate moment, Peter zapped the Muggles and blew a hole in the street, which he escaped through, and he left his severed finger behind.
Sirius never received a trial and without witnesses, it would have been his word against the evidence, which doesn't look good. He was presumed guilty and was never questioned. I wonder why Dumbledore didn't ask to question him?
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July 27 2004, 11:03 PM
having seen peter's mental abilities in school, knowing that he, sirius, would be blamed for the attack, and just managing to track down peter, when peter outsmarted him, he went into total, complete, and severe shock which caused a reaction that was totally unapropriate. Sometimes it happens in humans too.
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July 28 2004, 2:42 PM
emotions. weird, arn't they? laughing when we would think he would be yelling. people usually do that see, the shock of vlodemorts powers destroyed by his godson , who was only onne year old, his best freind dead, his other freind thinking him to be a traitor, his other freind THE traitor, being framed, sent to askaban, convicted of killing a man who is still alive, thought to be a death eater---so on... it must of been the shock of it all happening so soon and quick. thats why i think he laughed
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Re: I've never seen this anywhere else, so I'll say it. Why exactly was Sirius laughing?
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July 31 2004, 12:02 PM
I agree...in the trials they should just use veriteseum. I really think Fudge is a bad guy and he made it all up.
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July 31 2004, 1:02 PM
I have a feeling that using veriteseum in trials may be illegal. I don't know why, it's just this feeling that I have. It doesn't seem like it would be a fair trial if they did, memories can lie (plus there are false memories, etc.), someone could just slip in fake veriteseum instead of the real thing to allow the person to freely lie and everyone thinks it's the truth...
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