Just an FYI I found online last night, The WB has decided not to renew Angel for a 6th season in the Fall '04 TV line-up. I know Helen & Mari watch the show, but they usually know the info before me so I guess this is to anyone who doesn't know and watches the show. (Before you stop reading once you see how long I babbled in the next paragraph, if you skip the next paragraph out of lazyness that will be okay. Skipping it and going to the next one will find the small article I found online about it, and then after the article the petition to keep the show on the air I found online.)
Personally I'm kind of dissapointed myself. The way the season is going it doesn't seem likely that a series end would me suiting in my eyes. Like when this series ends I would expect a dramatic build-up, but we are roughly half way threw the season (not sure if the show reached the halfway point in the season yet or not), and I read spoilers for the episodes that are in production right now. To dump the news on the creator and writters like that with only so many unscripted episodes left wouldn't leave much of a dramatic build-up in my eyes. Don't get me wrong, they can do it, but IMO it just won't be the same as if they had a whole season to build up to it. Like Buffy for example, they for the most part, knew the show was ending from the beginning of the final season because Sarah Michelle Geller didn't want to renew her contract, and well can't continue a Buffy show with no Buffy, so they knew it was ending. And how it ended was great in my eyes. They had a whole season to build it up and work with it, and they did a great job. I just can't picture them doing a job on this as well as they did with Buffy. That's just my opinion. But if you read the article I'm attatching (only a short paragraph, not as much in it as this paragraph I'm babbaling on in) you'll see that they have the chance to bring it back next season with a special Angel movie event. That would be cool. And of course there is always a possibility for UPN to pick it up like they did with Buffy, or even another station to do the same for that matter.
This is the article copy/pasted from Spoilerfix.com that I found:
"02/14 - For the last seven years Angel and Buffy the Vampire Slayer have been cornerstones of our network. The sum total of the work done on those shows has produced some of the proudest moments in our history. Like some of the great series that are leaving the air this year, including Frasier and Friends, the cast, crew, writers and producers of Angel deserve to be able to wrap up the series in a way befitting a classic television series and that is why we went to Joss to let him know that this would be the last year of the series on The WB.We have discussed continuing the Angel legacy with special movie events next year, which is still on the table. In a perfect world, all of these details would be completed before this information went to the press so that we could be definitive about the show's ongoing future. But in any case, we did not want to contemplate this being the last year of Angel without giving the show the option of crafting their own destiny for this character and for this series. David Boreanaz continues to be one of the finest, classiest and friendliest actors we have had the pleasure to work with and we hope that the relationship furthers from here. The same can be said for all the actors and producers on the show."
I don't have time to look for this news. It surprises me because Angel is actually one of the more popular shows on the WB and as Joss Whedon's only remaining TV project, he wouldn't cancel it voluntarily. Personally, I would blame their time switch. They had excellent ratings on the Sunday night after Charmed. Then they moved it to primetime weekday to compete with extremely popular shows, such as the West Wing and CSI. It's a terrible strategy for the WB. They have a quality show that would get more ratings that most of their other shows if put on a different night...yet they're just cancelling it based on one time slot change that they made that ultimately doomed one of their best programs.
As I've said- Hollywood is full of complete idiots.
And while Angel has never had a strong continuing storyline, if you take each episode and evaluate it separately, this season is MUCH better than the past few.
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No kidding, this season is doing better then any other season so far. But there you go, when it gets good then get it gone, right? That really pisses me off. I found this on 2 or 3 sites, and on one of them it mentioned that they are dumping a few shows that do prety good also next season. It mentioned Charmed, 7th Heaven, & Gilmore Girls not going past next season. I personally love Charmed and like the other two also. I know that they all do real well, but apparently The WB wants to get rid of them all after next season, although Angel won't make it past this season. Boo to that.
Maybe with Angel gone, Joss will try and make another show. I'm personally hopeing for another Buffy spin-off, but that's just a obsessed idiot speaking here.
Hey, whatever happened with that Giles spin-off I heard something about, 'Ripper'?
I'm still not sure about Angel being cancelled though since Mari hasn't mentioned it and she keeps up on ALL Angel news from the best and most accurate sites on the show. But your story didn't leave much room for that.
I think Eliza Durkshu should come back for a spin-off. Have you ever seen her new show, Tru Calling? It's bad enough that I can't see it being renewed for another season. She should go back to what works...vampires.
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I did see one episode. It was decent, but it was only a few weeks ago so I didn't know much about the plot as to why she can have do-over days and stuff, but I really don't care either. Even though it was okay, that could have been one of the better episodes of the season and it could very well suck. Either way I did like her better as Faith then what I saw on Tru Calling.
If Mari does fill you in on anything I haven't mentioned about Angel let me know.
The problem with Tru Calling is that Eliza said she took the job because she was sick of her character of Faith and wanted to do something completely different. However, her Tru character is the same as Faith. They both have the same attitude and mannerisms. The only difference is that Tru can't kick serious butt, whereas Faith could. So Eliza didn't really change characters, despite that being the reason she claimed she took the show.
Well, it was officially released over the AP press papers today that Angel was cancelled, citing "The O.C" as the cause since that show took away Angel's demographic. I still can't believe that the execs at the WB are so frickin' stupid that they don't realize that all they need to do to make money is to transfer Angel into one of their failing time slots on a different night (hell, it was doing GREAT on Sunday. The reason they moved Angel to Wednesday was so they had a decent show to compete with the West Wing. Then the O.C came in and crushed both with the ratings. Move it back to SUNDAY!).
Then again, we knew how stupid the WB execs were after Harry Potter, didn't we?
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Doesn't really surprise me if this is the problem, mostly because what you said. The WB doesn't seem to know how to run their own company and make money. I love idiots.
Either way, even if she doesn't ever make her own spin off series with Joss Whedon, maybe she would do a one last performance type thing for Angel since after this season if she doesn't come back with her own show she won't have the chance to play the character ever again.
02/19 - Joss Whedon, co-creator of The WB's canceled vampire series Angel, told TV Guide Online that he doubts the series could move to UPN next year, much as its predecessor show Buffy the Vampire Slayer did after the frog network staked it. "We've talked about the possibility, but it's a long shot," Whedon told the site. A UPN spokeswoman had no comment for TV Guide, but an Angel insider told the site that executives at Angel's production studio Twentieth Century Fox are putting together a proposal for UPN. Whedon, meanwhile, reiterated that he'd love to have Buffy star Sarah Michelle Gellar make a guest appearance in the Angel series finale, though Gellar has already said she's not interested in appearing on Angel this season. "We'll put out some feelers [again] to see if there's some interest there," Whedon told the site. "We'd certainly love to have her." Gellar is currently in Tokyo shooting The Grudge, a supernatural horror film. Source: Sci Fi Wire (Thanks Ron for the tip.)
Okay, so i'm a hugh Angel fan and when i found out that Angel was being canceled i told all my friends. Most of them agreed that Angel should stay on air and some less watched show should be canceled (i.e. one tree hill) Anyway, for anyone who wants the newest info on Angel or Buffy characters go to www.buffy.nu
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If Angel moved to UPN, I'd actually get cable. Wyoming doesn't get UPN except if you have cable, so I'd finally have my incentive. But I think UPN would be smart to pick it up. They don't have any hit series anymore, so this would double their ratings.
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Come to think of it, I can't think of a single show on their network besides for WWE Smackdown. Their other shows must really suck if they are not memerable...
Oh I am so mad! FX has reruns of Buffy at 5 & 6 every day. I was out today and I recorded it because it was the series finale. Yeah, I hit record about 10 minutes too early and missed the very end! I know what happens but I still wanted to see it again.
Back to Angel now lol... I read on another site that Joss said it isn't very likely the move to UPN will happen. He also says if it moves or if it doesn't move he is planning on ending the season the same way he had planned before he got the news. So the season fenale must be good enough so you aren't left hanging at least.
I read an interview with Eliza Dushku the other day. She was saying that Joss would try to save the show and how he should do everything in his power to do that anyway since it would be a huge slap in the face to his fans who lost two of his shows last year (Buffy and Firefly), only to lose their last favorite this year.
UPN is best known for playing Hockey games in the winter, but once spring-fall comes, they go into hibernation.
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02/19 - Joss Whedon, co-creator of The WB's canceled vampire series Angel, told TV Guide Online that he doubts the series could move to UPN next year, much as its predecessor show Buffy the Vampire Slayer did after the frog network staked it. "We've talked about the possibility, but it's a long shot," Whedon told the site. A UPN spokeswoman had no comment for TV Guide, but an Angel insider told the site that executives at Angel's production studio Twentieth Century Fox are putting together a proposal for UPN. Whedon, meanwhile, reiterated that he'd love to have Buffy star Sarah Michelle Gellar make a guest appearance in the Angel series finale, though Gellar has already said she's not interested in appearing on Angel this season. "We'll put out some feelers [again] to see if there's some interest there," Whedon told the site. "We'd certainly love to have her." Gellar is currently in Tokyo shooting The Grudge, a supernatural horror film. Source: