Hi, I'm new here so I don't really know what's going on but, there's this thing that's really been bugging me. Why didn't Harry open the packet that Sirius gave him sooner, the mirror, so that instead of communicating through Umbridge's fire and meeting Kreacher, he could have just used the mirror to communicate, therefore not running off to save Sirius and killing him instead. I know, I know, J K Rowling wanted Sirius to die but still!
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As always, the easy answer is- JKR just didn't want to spoil the ending and the plot she laid out.
However, it bothers me that she even put in the mirrors if she wasn't going to use them. You can say that they'll be in play later, but Harry smashed his and Sirius's probably went behind the veil with him, which means that for JKR to bring them back, her explanation will either border on the absurd or will be the easy "it's magic!" explanation.
But to introduce the mirrors then never use them is horrid. It makes Harry's emotional trauma much worse because there was a way to save Sirius and he never thought of it. It seems like an overly cruel way to write the plot to me.
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That's something I'd do in a story, probably. (Pictures himself yelling at his fictional story character, "Haha, nimrod, I made you a bleeping idiot!"
I think their is the slight chance Sirius didn't have it on him. I mean I'm sure when they were told of the news, they must have just rushed out of the place really quickly. Wouldn't have thought to pick it up in that kind of rush, unless it was already on him which you can't really garuntee. Still, possible he did have it with him, but who knows?
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Well, if that's the case, that it was left behind, the only way I could see them being used again is if they use the "repairo" charm on it, and stumble on to someone back at Grimwald Place, maybe Lupin, who knows? I figure probably Lupin because he is most likely to be the one to go through all of Sirius' stuff, so he is most likely to find it, IMO.
When I read the part where Harry used floo powder to communicate with Kreacher, I thought he would actually go through the fire to Grimmauld Place and not just stick his head in. That way he could have seen for himself if Sirius was there and wouldn't have had to rely on Kreacher. And he wouldn't have been caught by Umbridge.
So, he could have prevented Sirius's death even though he didn't unpack the stupid mirror. But it was also stupid of him not to unpack it. He could have at least checked what was inside the parcel, even though he wasn't going to use it.
Stupid Harry, stupid Harry, stupid Harry!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why didn't he just use the mirrors?
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March 24 2004, 5:52 AM
Chris, you're assuming then that Sirius didn't already have the mirror on him. The way Sirius described the mirrors to Harry, he made it seem like he never took it OFF him, as in the mirror was on his body full time to ensure he'd always get Harry's call. If he took it off, he might risk not hearing Harry, and given the dangers Harry was facing, I seriously doubt Sirius would do such a thing.
As for "reparo", Harry shattered the mirror in a fit of rage. How can we know for sure that the magic within it wasn't destroyed or altered with the blow? There are many questions about the possibility of fixing it, and in the end, it's probably of no use since I couldn't see Sirius not having his mirror on his unless JKR wanted to stab the fans in the heart more by making Sirius look careless and heartless by not keeping the mirror on him to be constantly sure of his connection with Harry.
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I wish this thread showed up sooner. I would have added it to the list of questions to ask JK. Oh well.
Actually yeah, now that I think about it it did sound like he kept it on him at all times. And it didn't cross my mind at all that it would mess up the magic. But to counter that argument, the flying car took one hell fo a beating and it still flew. Granted the spell or charm was obviously different since it had different effects, and the car was not completely destroyed the way the mirror was though.
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Hey, I just thought of something. How come Sirius didn't just tell Harry to use the mirrors when they were communicating via fire. He could have just said "open your package" and left it at that. Harry would have been upset maybe at first but he'd have figured it out sooner or later.
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Sirius gave the mirrors to Harry as a gift. It would be actually a bit rude to keep pestering someone to open a gift because then your assuming the person hasn't already. If Sirius brought it up, it would either embarrass Harry or hurt Sirius that Harry hadn't given him the thoughtfulness of opening a personal gift. That's not exactly a light topic to just suddenly bring up out of nowhere. It completely lacks tact.
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Okay, I started this thread but put it down as anonymous accidentally. Is there any way of changing it? Anyway, I guess the mirrors will have a later part in the books so Sirius probably didn't disappear with the mirror, and you probably could repair it, I doubt the magic just disappears if you break it. And, yeah, it would be tactless to have mentioned it to Harry, but seriously, if your godson is having to communicate through Umbridge's office then I think I would probably tell him that there was an easier way to talk. I think JKR just forgot about this or didn't notice it.
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yeah i hate that mirror. it made me cry when Harry smashed it. i think jkr said she had a hard time riting the death in book 5 and Sirius's death wouldnt have been as sad if that mirror wasnt in there. still it pissed me off. also when Harry got the package at Grimmauld Place and thought it would probably be someway 2 sneak Sirius out of his house my question is how? how would that package be a way 2 sneak him out? Sirius said Mrs. Weasley wouldnt approve, but Mrs W doenst approve of a lot of things y would harry assume itd be a way 2 sneak him out? if i were harry id have assumed it was a cool gift that would be kinda dangerous like Sirius knife. i bet Molly wouldnt like that. it seems like harrys an idiot. he never questions things!
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