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March 25 2004 at 10:39 PM
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Somebody actually made a petition to bring back Sirius. Check this out:

http://www.petitiononline.com/siriusB/petition.html

Well, I guess I wouldn't exactly call it sad, but since it's been said time and time agian that nobody can be brought back from the dead, even by magic, what will this be able to do??? Check out some of the signatures. Someone actually said that JK screwed up and now she needs to fix it.

 
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March 25 2004, 10:56 PM 

Here's another Harry related petition from the same website. This one is asking not to kill Harry.

http://www.petitiononline.com/harry/petition.html


LOL, this is so fun, finding all of these Harry petitions, reading the sigs, and know that not a damn one can change JKR's mind from whatever she already has set in it.

 
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March 25 2004, 11:17 PM 

Now here's one worth signing:

http://www.petitiononline.com/jknp2004/petition.html

JKR nomination for Noble Prize in Literature.


I'll make this my last petition link post, but this IS fun to read all of these. If you want to see more, go here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/category_1.html

and type in "potter" or "harry" or "harry potter" or "rowling" into a search (ctrl + f) and you will come up with quite a few.

 
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March 26 2004, 5:44 AM 

I don't think it necessarily should be to bring back Sirius, but to demonstrate an overall reader contempt for the way JKR handled the situation. I know it's her book, and she has the right to do whatever she wants with it. If she wants to write that Harry gets zapped into being a peacock throughout his entire 6th year, that's her right to do. However, if she has that right, then the readers have every right as well to let her know when they are upset with something she wrote, whether she cares or not. If Sirius died for some greater purpose, I wouldn't have a problem, but I do have a SERIOUS problem when JKR initially says that he only died to show Harry how sudden and unexpected death could be when she just finished killing Cedric right in front of Harry the year before. Then JKR seemed to realize that she probably shouldn't have said something so horrid when Sirius was a fan favorite, so she tried apologizing and making the death out to be more than she said it was, which is completely like trying to save her a$$ long after it's too late.

So while I don't want Sirius to be raised from the dead to deal with it, I wouldn't mind letting JKR know my general contempt for the situation.




    
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March 26 2004, 8:10 AM 

I have to agree with Helen on the "saving her own A$$" but Im hoping that JKR (although it may not have been her plan to make Sirius' death as important as it may turn out to be) will compensate and actually turn his death into something we can truly learn from.

I mean, her excuse definitely was poor, in that it was only to demonstrate how swift death really is... well we know that it can be - but I think the fact that JKR neglected to portray just how emotional death is - thats what bothered me the most!
In showing the swiftness of his death, she forgot that mourning is not swift. Maybe she'll work on that in the next one (fingers crossed).

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March 26 2004, 4:59 PM 

i dont think JKR will bring him back. now im not saying i hated Sirius Black. HE WAS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER!!!! we were so much alike! i cried so hard when he died. i think thats an awful way to kill someone though. killing a character is one thing, but not knowing how EXACTLY he died? i mean we all have the veil death portal thing but seriously! i know she wanted to prove death is sudden but not that sudden.

 
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March 27 2004, 10:04 AM 

I'm going with Helen on this one. You can't force somebody to write things in or change their literature. However, you can make a point to them that a lot of people will stop buying their work unless they pick up the pace. A Writers main job is to please their fanbase because if they don't, they won't be making any more money. That being said, I was upset about Sirius's death- not because he died, but how he died. You don't take a fan favorite and have him show up to a fight and then die pointlessly at the end. If she made a simple change to have Bellatrix shooting the curse at Harry and Sirius diving in front of him to save him or have somebody more important to the series, like Voldemort, kill him, I would have felt Sirius's death was justified. But I'm not signing any petition to bring him back and I'm not going to try and bring him back- I just simply will not buy her books until Helen or someone else I trust says she's started to write with high quality again.


 
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March 27 2004, 10:57 AM 

I never even considered that Sirius could possibly die before I read the part when he was killed. Even then I kept muttering: "No, he's not dead. He can't be dead. He isn't dead."
I was annoyed about this death until JKR said there was a point to this later. I sure hope it's a good point or otherwise I'm going to be really mad.
But bringing Sirius back now that he's dead would be so stupid.
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March 27 2004, 12:36 PM 

JKR said she had a hard time writing the death. I think its because she wanted it to be sad and the fact that people are signing a petition to bring Sirius back makes her feel like she did her job writing a death so sad. she said a fan of Harry's would die and i cant believe everyone thought it would be Ginny or the Creeveys! When I was thinking about who she would kill off Sirius never crossed my mind. also if Sirius hadnt fallen through the veil then Harry wouldnt have gone upstairs to the lobby area. So Dumbledore and Voldy never would have dueled and the Ministry still wouldnt believe Dumbledore. Plus I dont think the Ministry would believe Dumbledore that Sirius is innocent even if they believed Voldemort was back because Dumbledore didnt even bother to explain to Fudge in book four that Siruis was innocent so for books 6 and 7 Sirius would have been alone and lonely hiding out in 12 Grimmauld Place completely miserable where when hes dead in the land of the dead hes with his best friend and he doesnt have to hide.

 
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March 31 2004, 6:10 AM 

The thing is, the death wasn't sad. It was frustrating. There was no real emotion in it. Sirius was egging on a Death Eater and then shot...and by the most annoying woman of all time. It wasn't even a major Death Eater or an interesting one to do it...it was a DAMN annoying one who talks to a fifteen year old guy like he is an infant. It was pathetic. And JKR NEVER said there would be a point to Sirius's death...at first. That only came as a suggestion much later when everyone got angry with her. JKR CHANGED her storyline now to accommodate reader's general contempt because her original plan had nothing to do with Sirius. She said that in her first interviews after book 5's release. She directly told fans that Sirius's death was only to show Harry how "sudden" death could be. Her only point was to give Harry a lesson in death. However, when fans complained of the manner in which she killed Sirius, which was aggravating, and then pointed out that Harry had to be the dumbest SOB in this world if he didn't learn about the nature of death from Cedric's murder, she started switching her statements and only then did she ever even say that there could be a further point to the death...but by that time, it was a clear indication that she never really intended the series to go that way, but she realized now that she had to cover her a$$...



 
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