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April 18 2004 at 9:32 PM
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First of all, I need to apologize for my absence. From Blaster worms to personal health issues, and always school, I have been very busy... but never fear; there are many Quibbler theories to be shared!

As you can see, my theory this week is Sibyl Trelawney's secret admiration for Remus Lupin. I would like to thank Madeline for helping me out with this one.

Trelawney is surprisingly one of my favorite characters. We find out in Order of the Phoenix that she is actually very important to the septology through her prophecies. But the first time we meet her is in Prisoner of Azkaban.

At this time, she is described as insect-like with oversized glasses that magnify the size of her eyes. Rowling describes her literally as a "large glittering insect." This makes me laugh. I can see her as a melodramatic character that fans love to hate. She is just hilarious, but one has to wonder what her story is. Is she married? Does she believe in everything that she "sees?" We know that in Order of the Phoenix she lives in the Hogwarts Castle. This is not surprising to fans, but raises questions on her personal life. As animated and just plain flamboyant as she is, it's a pretty sure guess that she is unmarried.

Back in Prisoner of Azkaban, chapter eleven has a lot of support for this theory. In it, Trelawney descends from the North Tower in what turns out to be a very rare occasion. Why, you ask? Well, Lupin is supposed to be there, of course. I am talking about the Christmas Dinner. Further, she enters wearing a sequined dress. Sequins? Obviously, she was trying to make an impression on someone, and, knowing her personality, it was probably to make a loverly impression on Lupin. Also, there is much emphasis on the fact that it makes her look even more insect-like (specifically like a dragonfly). Next, as she sits down, she immediately ignores a question from McGonagall to ask specifically where Lupin is. This is fine, but she has never seemed overly inquisitive about a specific person before. Clearly she has a deep-seeded interest in our favorite werewolf.

Which brings me to my next point. In chapter three of Prisoner of Azkaban, Lupin takes his Defense Against the Dark Arts class to the teacher's lounge to practice getting rid of a boggart (a kind of noisy thing that lives in dressers). The students each take turns practicing. You see, the boggart changes into whatever the person facing it most fears. It is then up to the person to yell a spell. At that time, the boggart changes into something funny and eventually fades. The thing that makes this interesting is that when Lupin faces the boggart, it changes into a floating slivery orb. Okay, this is fine...seems like a moon. And, we find out later that it was a moon because he is werewolf and all. It makes sense. But could it mean something else?

Trelawney admits at the Christmas dinner that she offered to crystal gaze for Lupin, at which he "absolutely fled." Nothing wrong with this, I suppose, if Lupin had something to hide...like being a werewolf? But, later in the book, Dumbledore makes it clear that the entire staff already knew about that. So, what would make Lupin flee? Not wanting to break Trelawney's heart, maybe? So, could this orb be a crystal ball? Is Lupin actually scared of Trelawney because she is obsessed with him? Could be...

Even if it was a moon or orb or whatever, Lupin's boggart turns into a cockroach. Okay, that is fine...kind of funny. But maybe this was a poke at Trelawney for the fact that she looks like a bug. Hmmm....

 
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Re: pulled off Mugglenet, I think it is interesting

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April 18 2004, 9:55 PM 

Interesting, I suppose, but more than a little far-fetched.  The big proof seems to be her arrival at Christmas dinner and asking about Lupin.  Well, sure she expected him to be there.  All the staff was, apparently.  As for ignoring McGonagall, that seems fairly straightforward, too.  Minnie wasn't showing that they had a particularly friendly relationship, now was she?  Sequins could just be in honor of the day.  More proof was the boggart turning into a silvery orb.  That seems to be satisfactorily explained as the moon.  In fact, they speculated about a crystal ball at first.  The last proof was that Lupin fled when Sybill offered to read her crystal ball for him.  Well, if you had that crazy, death-obsessed bat wanting to read your future, wouldn't you run?  I would.

 

So, while anything is possible, I guess, I feel like this is rather beyond the pale.  *side note:  having said this, JKR will now, doubtless prove me wrong*  It sounds like a fun idea for fanfic, but I don't see how this can be a particularly necessary addition to the plot. 



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Re: pulled off Mugglenet, I think it is interesting

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April 19 2004, 10:34 PM 

Or maybe jk just f-d up, and likes lupin so much that we always have to know were to toad is. I didn't know that the "whole" staff knew? Trawleny is a little to young to have been a teacher when lupin was in school, so why would she know? I would expect dumbledore, pomfry and mgonnaggal to be discreet, even snape was forced to take an oath...i think it isn't too far fetched, its quite probably possible. but...Who cares?

Thanks for posting anyways narc, I LOVE YOU, jays a flamer(as in flames, but maybe he's gay too...then some other lucky canadian stud....nm)

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Re: pulled off Mugglenet, I think it is interesting

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April 19 2004, 11:01 PM 

Snape was firced to secrecy as a student. Obviously he didn't take that too seriously as he let it slip to the slytherins at the end of term. I didn't say I support this, but I found it interesting anyways. The whole thing was written as a joke on their Quibbler section.

And Jay's team is the Devils. And he isn't gay. He's a homophobic.


 
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Re: pulled off Mugglenet, I think it is interesting

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April 20 2004, 7:03 AM 

EWWWWWWWW the devils? Wtf? Hamilton kid roots for american team....well they are out of the playoffs early, i bet he is rooting for the flames now. Tell him it is perfectly fine to be a homophobe, alot of people these days are switching to heterophobes.

 
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April 20 2004, 8:28 AM 

First, HOLA from Cozumel.  My hotel offeres internet access so I thought IŽd message you guys.

Narc, I like your theory.  It did seem out of character for Lupin to ŽfleeŽat the thought of having his fortune read with a crystal ball.  He isnŽt a guy who is nervous.  HeŽs pretty under control.  I f he didnŽt want her to read his fortune, he could have just told her ŽnoŽ calmly.  Therefore, it could be a clue. 

I still think that perhaps there is something in the air in the tower room that dulls the senses.  Harry is always sort of dazed when he is in Trelwaneys classroom.  I tend to think that Dumbledore does something to help keep Trelawney in the castle.  So, long story short, I agree that she is very interesting and important to the plot.  I suspect she will give Harry one more prophesy (so they come in a group of 3 - always a fortuitous number). 


 
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April 20 2004, 4:05 PM 

I really like this theory. Very fresh, and parts of it really make sense.

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