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Who is Half Blood Prince if its neither Harry nor Vold...? (see jkrowling.com news)

June 29 2004 at 3:29 PM
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As book 6 title has been confirmed (see news section in JKR's official site). It brings us to a question which as you realize is both obvious as well as the most relevant. Who is HBF?

I know there will be lot of theories about this in the days to come. Here are a few of mine to begin with.

Dumbledore?

  • We dont know about his family (as far as i know) so he may be a halfblood.
  • He is the only person Vold... is afraid of.
  • He has got Fawkes, Sorting hat, Sword.
  • He defeated Grindwald.
  • He seems like a good choice to be HBF.(too good?)

Dean Thomas?

  • He is a halfblood. (see JKRs official site\ extra stuff \edits)
  • On the other hand he might be a planned distraction.

Tom Riddle?

  • He is not Vold.... as he its the name Riddle used before Voldemort. (as hinted in COS)
  • He is hinted in Cos.
  • But he is actually Voldemort so the theory is far fetched.

other guesses,

Aberforth, Some one new, figs son?,etc?

 


 
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June 29 2004, 4:51 PM 

Aberforth is Dumbledore's brother. Just so you know.

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Who is the Half Blood Prince?

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June 29 2004, 7:20 PM 

Harry and Voldemort aren't the prince. If you go to J.K. Rowling's official websites, she clearly states that they're not.

 
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HBP

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July 1 2004, 1:11 AM 

I think Mark Evans is the HBP bcz he is a new character and the story doesnt tell if the EVANS are halfblood dunno might be dumbledore or dean thomas....

 
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July 4 2004, 1:10 PM 

who is Mark Evans anyways?

 
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NEVILLE

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July 1 2004, 10:31 AM 

No offense, but we must be blind if we don't know who the half blooded prince is....NEVILLE! Remember, he was the only other person who would fit the prohpecy! And we seem to uncover something HGE every book about Neville...I'm not saying that its him for sure, but its pretty obvious, right?

 
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July 1 2004, 11:09 AM 

How? He's a pureblood. Dumbledore said so.

 
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July 1 2004, 11:57 AM 

Do you think it could be Dudley?

 
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July 1 2004, 12:50 PM 

Ok, it's starting to get annoying that people keep speculating that Dudley might be the HBP. He's a muggle for goodness sake! If anyone brings that up again, I'll run away screaming.

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Who is the Half Blood Prince

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July 1 2004, 6:02 PM 

I think it's Seamus or Dean

 
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July 1 2004, 8:10 PM 

It may be Hagrid. He is a half-blood(I think).

 
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July 1 2004, 8:19 PM 

I agree with Manuel. I think Mark Evans is the HBP.

 
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July 1 2004, 9:13 PM 

The Half Blood Prince was a possible title for The Chamber of Secrets. I remember reading it in one of JKR's biographys. So, I'm sure that the COS has many important clues. Hagrid was in that one a lot...but so was tom riddle. I am so confused.


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"You too are about to learn what happens to wrongdoing at my school."
Filch cracked his whip threatingly.
"You know what? said Fred. "I dont think we are. George, I think we've outgrown
full-time education."
"Yeah, I've been feeling that way myself," said George lightly.
"Time to test our talents in the real world, d'you reckon?" asked Fred.
"Definitely," said George.
And before Umbridge could say a word, they raised their wands and said together,
"Accio Brooms!"...

"Give her hell from us, Peeves!"

"I didn't know you could read."
Draco from Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

"The spiders...The spiders are making me tap dance..." "You tell those spiders, Ron" "Ya, ya, okay, I will." :-D tee hee

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July 1 2004, 9:16 PM 

Sorry, I posted this before I read the article on her website.

BTW-It would be stupid for HP to be the HBP cause then the title would read Harry Potter and Harry Potter.

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"You too are about to learn what happens to wrongdoing at my school."
Filch cracked his whip threatingly.
"You know what? said Fred. "I dont think we are. George, I think we've outgrown
full-time education."
"Yeah, I've been feeling that way myself," said George lightly.
"Time to test our talents in the real world, d'you reckon?" asked Fred.
"Definitely," said George.
And before Umbridge could say a word, they raised their wands and said together,
"Accio Brooms!"...

"Give her hell from us, Peeves!"

"I didn't know you could read."
Draco from Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

"The spiders...The spiders are making me tap dance..." "You tell those spiders, Ron" "Ya, ya, okay, I will." :-D tee hee

"When did she get here? Did you see her come in?" HILARIOUS!!...poor Ron. ;-D

 
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July 1 2004, 11:42 PM 

Although it is undeniably very improbable perhaps Draco Malfoy is the HBP, remember the sorting hat warning everyone that if they don't unite then they will fall, and Harry and Herminone's biggest antagonizer is Malfoy. If it comes out that he's a mudblood, unknown to everyone, a dirty secret in his family or something, then all of his former cronies would probably tease him as the "halfblood prince", and perhaps it would create a point where he and Harry can find some sort of common ground and become allies in the face of a common enemy.

On another note I agree with some former posts and think a more probable candidate is Neville, I really like Neville and think he's going to do big things.

 
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July 2 2004, 12:35 AM 

Ok so Half Blood Prince was the first title of CoS. When the title was change did some of the book get changed to? If it did my money is on Mark Evans being the 'prince'. But if it didn't get changed I think it would be Dean or Seamus (is that how you spell it?) though sceptically. Another thing Riddle is Voldermort whether you like it or not. He says clearly who he is (he even writes it out) and there is no changeling crap going on. And Rowling said Voldermort wasn't the 'prince'.

Another thought, though his name is the Half Blood Prince it doesn't necessarily mean he is half blood maybe he has royalty over the Half Bloods. If that were true he would probably be title 'Prince of the Half Bloods' so the chances are slim, just throwing out ideas.

 
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July 3 2004, 11:06 PM 

Hold on a minute guys.....if Half Blood Prince was a possible title for COS then that may mean we may be seeing or hearing more about the Chamber of Secrets and the past of Hogwarts and Slytherin house. Im also trying to go back through the books and see about other refrences to princes. Nothing yet, will post soon.

 
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July 2 2004, 5:43 AM 

Tom Riddle is gone. He was just a memory. So I dont think it is him.

Malfoy-that would make since, but I don't think that he is a half blood.

Knowing JKR, she will probably make it some new charater we haven't even had yet. Boy that would make me mad.

---------------------------------------------

"You too are about to learn what happens to wrongdoing at my school."
Filch cracked his whip threatingly.
"You know what? said Fred. "I dont think we are. George, I think we've outgrown
full-time education."
"Yeah, I've been feeling that way myself," said George lightly.
"Time to test our talents in the real world, d'you reckon?" asked Fred.
"Definitely," said George.
And before Umbridge could say a word, they raised their wands and said together,
"Accio Brooms!"...

"Give her hell from us, Peeves!"

"I didn't know you could read."
Draco from Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

"The spiders...The spiders are making me tap dance..." "You tell those spiders, Ron" "Ya, ya, okay, I will." :-D tee hee

"When did she get here? Did you see her come in?" HILARIOUS!!...poor Ron. ;-D

 
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IT'S HAGRID

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July 2 2004, 8:31 AM 

At least I THINK it's hagrid. HBP doesn't HAVE to mean half-wizard blood, right? Maybe it can mean half-human blood, like Hagrid. Or it could possibly be Lupin, but we didn't meet Lupin in the second one and this was a possible title for book 2.

Ispectulated Seamus or Dean, but why them? They are but-players and honestly have nothing to do with the story except be in existence... right?

I don't think it's MAlfoy. It's CONFIRMED that Narcissa is pure-blood and it's obvious Lucius is one. It's how the pureblood family works.

I'm goigng to have to go back and read the ENTIRE series and check who's half-blood. Dang it!!


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July 2 2004, 8:35 AM 

Unless JKR throws a curve ball, I think the Half Blood Prince is Dean Thomas or Neville.

From jkrowling.com, it says that he was raised by his [muggle] mother and stepfather but got his Hogwarts letter raising the wizard question about his real father [who was killed by Death-Eaters when he refused to join them].

HOWEVER, she goes on to say that she sacrificed Dean's voyage of discovery for Neville's, which is more important to the central plot. Now isn't that as clear as mud.

I would not like to think that after SO many books that only NOW we find out that there is a royal line, complete with kings, queens, princes, lords and ladies, etc.

 
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July 2 2004, 10:26 AM 

It could likely be Dean becuase she said she wanted to include more of hiim in the stories (according to her web site). BUt the only thing she was going to state about him and his background is that his dad was killed by Death Eaters..I could see how it would be him, but, can see , just how well, it can't be him.

 
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July 2 2004, 12:36 PM 

The more it is speculated the more I am beginning to think that "half-blood" and "mudblood" are completely different things. If we are trying to narrow our field of suspects by looking at their bloodline then perhaps we should consider that if JKR wanted to say "mudblood" then she would have, being that "mudblood" is established as someone... etcetera, but she didn't, she said "halfblood" so perhaps it has nothing to do with muggle vs wizard parentage. That makes me think hagrid then b/c his bloodline encompasses more than that and it is shown that Giants live in a clan-structured society, and clan-structure gives rise to Monarchy.

AND

On another note who is to says that the HBP is a benevolant character? Why can't he be evil? The only real reference to anyone taking a title such as "prince" would be LORD Voldemort himself. All of the nice and happy characters work in more of a democratic-everyone-gets-their-say-Ministry sort of fashion. To say "prince" would imply that this person by divine right is of a higher caste than his subjects, just as Voldemort feels he is by his strength the Lord of all those weaker than he. Perhaps if he himself cannot kill Harry then he may be able to train/create and heir of his own to do so for him.

One more thing, didn't he make a huge deal about it being Harry's blood he took in the end of Goblet? A reason was given for it but perhaps there is another unseen motive.

 
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half blood

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July 2 2004, 3:37 PM 

I believe mudblood is used in a derogatory fashion. Half blood would be the polite and accepted title given to... well, half bloods. So I think they are the same.

I don't think JKR would ever use the title Mud Blood Prince. That would just be soooooooooo politically incorrect. [Although being politically incorrect is the way I live my life]

Oh great.... now I forget what I originally intended to write. ***stops drinking now.


 
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July 2 2004, 7:21 PM 

The half blood prince can't be Neville. He's a pure blood.

 
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July 2 2004, 11:19 PM 

When I first heard about the half-blood prince I immediately thought of Ron. Why:
~Weasley is Our King
~His father's name is Aurthur
~He had a decently big part in COS, but she said she cut a lot out of that
~Maybe there was a better reason that "Lucius doesn't like Aurthur and wants to discredit him" for him choosing Ginny for the diary

Although Neville is tempting, I think he's too obvious. And we haven't ever heard of Mark Evans until now, so how on earth could it be him?

 
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July 3 2004, 8:24 AM 

"Mudblood" is a degrading word for a muggle-born, someone who has two muggle parents, but half blood is when one parent comes from a magical family. Let's not confuse those two.

And I don't think it's Neville or Ron because they're both purebloods. I doubt that it would be Dean because JKR said she cut his background from the books.

Mark Evans - possibly. We don't know anything about him and I don't think JKR threw that name in for no reason.

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July 4 2004, 1:02 AM 

I think Matts has a point here. The Half Blood Prince was the first title of CoS but was scratched. Dean's background was in the first draft of Cos but was scrathed. Also maybe the reason we haven't heard of royalty in the wizarding world is because Dean never even knew his father was a wizard therefore didn't know his father was of royalty and Dean hasn't been informed or atleast Harry hasn't been informed of Deans royalty.

 
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July 4 2004, 4:24 AM 


I don't think Dean can be the half-blood price. J.K says 'now I don't think his history will ever make it into the books'. What I'm looking forward to in book 6 is more about james and lily coming out. i have a feeling they have a great relevance to the plot. I can't wait for the book to get out! Does anybody know anything about when that is? I heard 4-5 months, but...

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July 8 2004, 11:22 AM 

could the HBP possibly be one of the Creevey Brothers. The first one Collin was introduced in CoS. Is he a half blood?

 
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July 8 2004, 7:10 PM 

I think the Half Blood Prince is Hagrid. He is a half blood and his Mom had royalty in her blood. Also JK said the 2nd and 6th book have a lot in common and Hagrid was in the 2nd book alot.

 
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Hagrid?

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July 15 2004, 12:23 PM 

hagrid? i really think that she means half wizard, not half human. Lupin? not really. mark evans? probably him i mean, i think that he is the one to be the hbp, to be honest. im just not all for hagrid being it.

An odd feeling rose in Harry -- an emotion quite differnt from the anger and greif that had filled him since Sirius's death. It was a few moments before he realised that he was feeling sorry for Luna.
"How come people hide your stuff?" he asked her, frowning.
"Oh...well..." She shrugged. "I think they think I'm a bit odd, you know. Some people call me 'Loony' Lovegood actually."
Harry looked at her and the new feeling of pity intensified rather painfully.
"That's no reason for them to take your things," he said flatly. "D'you want help finding them?"
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July 15 2004, 1:46 PM 

JKR already announced that Mark Evans is nobody. This means he isn't the HBP

 
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July 15 2004, 8:54 PM 

How is Hagrid's mother royal? I was under the impression that the way you got to be Gurg of the giants was to kill off the current Gurg. Though Hagrid is a good possibility because he's half-wizard, half-giant. I hadn't thought about him before.

Also, who says the HBP has to be alive? Could James Potter be the HBP? We know almost nothing about the Potters.

 
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July 15 2004, 11:46 PM 

I think I figured it out. Jk said that HBP might have been the title of the senond book. So im thinking Tom Riddle is the half blood prince. Also JK said a character introduced in the second book will be importent in the future books. Riddle was intruduced in the second book. There was some other evidende but I cant think of it right now... too tired

 
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July 16 2004, 3:28 PM 

I am pretty sure the Creevy bros are muggleborn.... Neville is full blood..... It couldn't be Dean b/c in the 5th book he says when Harry and Seamus are fighting "My parents are muggles, they dont know nothing about no deaths at Hogwarts, because I'm not stupid enough to tell them." but I think it could be Seamus b/c his dad is a muggle (i think)

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"Give her hell from us, Peeves!"

"I'm getting out of here before one of you comes up with another clever idea to get us killed, or worse, expelled!"

Hermione: "Harry, I've been thinking -- you know what we've got to do, don't you? Straight away, the moment we get back to the castle?"
Harry: "Yeah, give Ron a good kick up the--"
Hermione: "Write to Sirius."

--but you get these massive pus-filled boils too," said George, "and we haven't worked out how to get rid of them yet."
"I can't see any boils," said Ron, staring at the twins.
"No, well, you wouldn't," said Fred, "they're not in a place we generally display to the public --"
"-- but they make sitting on a broom a right pain in the --"

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July 16 2004, 9:52 PM 


i dont think its dean or seamus because there would have been alot more information provided about each of them.

i dont think it can be neville either. sooner or later he is probably going to have a very big part in voldy's destruction but since he has been a little on the wimpy side throughout the whole series, he will show his true colors in the very end.

its not tom riddle, hes already been defeated, there is no point of bringing him back into the story now that voldemort is actually back. unless he does come back and the 2 volds get jelous of each other and duel and then they both die. thats unlikely though.

it must be hagrid for a couple reasons: he went off to get the giants on the good side. when he comes back, him being a prince is going to kick off the next book, therefore opening a story line but not throwing off the whole epic completely.

its a new plot twist but not a new character or a new plot.
i dont know if that makes sense








 
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July 20 2004, 9:36 PM 

Alright don't have a cow I'm just throwing this out but maybe the Prince is Nearly Headless Nick. I hope its someone else but in book five Nick says something about his noble blood but does get any further because Ron interrupts him asking him about what blood. Any way just a thought.

 
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half blood prince

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July 22 2004, 9:54 AM 

Maybe [like it has been suggested by others] that the HBP is nobody 'living'. Perhaps the HBP is one of Harry's ancestors? Perhaps we find out more history of the Potters in this upcoming book. If the Chamber of Secrets was originally going to be called the Half Blood Prince and she changed it to CoS, then, still toying with the idea of revealing the HBP in CoS.... perhaps she had more than one SECRET? Chamber of Secrets, not Chamber of a Secret.

[insert freaky revealing chamber music here]

I'm sure a lot of us would love to have more history revealed about a lot of people, including the Potters and how both sets of grandparents died and assumably pre-deceased James and Lily, as Harry has 'no living relatives' save Aunt Petunia.

Chew on that for awhile and let me know what you think.

 
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Half blood prince

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July 22 2004, 10:02 AM 

The half blood prince can't be Malfoy or Ron. They're both pure bloods.

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Weasley is our King,
Weasley is our King,
He didn't let the Quaffle in,
Weasley is our King.

Weasley can save anything,
He never leaves a single ring,
That's why Gryffindors all sing:
Weasley is our King.

Weasley is our King,
Weasley is our King,
He didn't let the Quaffle in,
Weasley is our King.

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myrtle?

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July 25 2004, 9:46 AM 

uh i know she cant be te prince 'cause shes a girl, but i cant help thinking that myrtle is important somehow.

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An odd feeling rose in Harry -- an emotion quite differnt from the anger and greif that had filled him since Sirius's death. It was a few moments before he realised that he was feeling sorry for Luna.
"How come people hide your stuff?" he asked her, frowning.
"Oh...well..." She shrugged. "I think they think I'm a bit odd, you know. Some people call me 'Loony' Lovegood actually."
Harry looked at her and the new feeling of pity intensified rather painfully.
"That's no reason for them to take your things," he said flatly. "D'you want help finding them?"
-Order of the Pheonix-

 
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July 28 2004, 4:04 PM 

um....i know this will totally upset everyone and all speculation...but hwta it HPB is someone we haven't met? possibility!

 
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Maybe...but

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July 28 2004, 4:15 PM 

Well, that could be true too--but that a lot of background that JKR has to put in. Also, it would be better if we already knew the person because then we would have to warm up to the new character.

 
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July 28 2004, 4:19 PM 

this is so obvious!!!! why didnt i think of that?

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An odd feeling rose in Harry -- an emotion quite differnt from the anger and greif that had filled him since Sirius's death. It was a few moments before he realised that he was feeling sorry for Luna.
"How come people hide your stuff?" he asked her, frowning.
"Oh...well..." She shrugged. "I think they think I'm a bit odd, you know. Some people call me 'Loony' Lovegood actually."
Harry looked at her and the new feeling of pity intensified rather painfully.
"That's no reason for them to take your things," he said flatly. "D'you want help finding them?"
-Order of the Pheonix-

 
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HAGRID

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July 29 2004, 2:24 PM 

It's obviously hagrid! He is half wizard/giant. And his mom was queen of the giants(Fridwulfa). Which would make him a prince. DUUUHHH!!!

 
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July 29 2004, 6:12 PM 

Voldemort create an heir? Lovely.

On a cleaner note
Do you think there is a difference between half-breed (Hagrid/Lupin) and half-blood (Harry/Voldie)?

It can't be any of Harry's ancestor's. All of his mom's side are muggles and all of his dad's side are purebloods. The meeting of the two sides would be where half blood begins.

And by the way Harry and Malfoy will never EVER become allies EVER! They happen to hate each other more and more in every book. EVER!!!!

I'm not sure about Nick, I mean I think he is far enough back that halfbloods were not that common. "If we didn't start marrying muggles we would have died out" (or something like that) Arthur Weasley

I don't really think it would be Mark Evens, I mean it would just be WAY to much of a quincedence for him to turn out wizard and halfblood is obviously impossilbe since one of his parents would have to be wizard and no wizards live in the area.

Ron? Are we suggesting that Molly might have some secret lovers we don't know about? Should we get a DNA test?

Neville is pureblood. Seamus is pureblood. And J.K. already said that she feared Dean's history would not make the books, why would she say that if she had just written a book about him being halfblood?

The whole Tom Riddle play again is possible and JK is just trying to mess with our minds by saying it ain't Voldie. But it goes against my better judgement.

The Creevy's are muggleborn. They say so, PLUS Colin was pettrified.

Dumbledore has GOT to be pureblood, we just couldn't have it any other way.

Now I really don't think that we are all excersizing are imaginations enough. It could be some not previously mentioned, it could be someone who isn't even human. I mean there are so many possibilities. Personally I hope it is someone new, evil, and dead. Cause we already have are evil and good main characters and we don't need anyone else trying to steal the spotlight. That would be SO annoying!

~GwP~

 
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