I took my car to a self service car washing, wearing a pair of elastic sweatpants w/o u/w. Now these sweat pants are ones that I usually wear lounging around the house, and I without giving my thought about the pants, headed on out to the car wash; a place I've gone to many times before without incident. Now, I will admit, that when squatting, the pants do tend to fall a bit creating a "plumbers crack", thus the sagging affect. Well, someone called the police stating that I was being indecent, however, when the officer pulled up as I was busy detailing my car, he laughed and said that he saw nothing wrong here, but was obligated to investigate the complaint. He ran my i.d., stating that he had to inform dispatch as to whom he spoken with, but that there was no problem. I stayed and completed detailing my car, but will be much more aware of state of dress.

I just can't believe that someone would freak out about seeing some butt crack, but then again this is America, the land of the prudes! LOL

plumber's butt ? please, i've had that down since i could walk. i wonder what they would've thougt if they'd seen me sag the way i do now, sometimes, i'm practically mooning, and that doesn't count the times i actually am mooning.

I can't freaking believe someone had nothing better to do with their time than to stare at you washing your car and then call the police because your sweats dropped a little. Then again, as you said, in America I am not shocked. It is a sad state of affairs when the "Car Wash Neighborhood Patrol" is on the loose. Ahhhhhhh!!!

Keep on detailing! Keep on freeballing!

When I read this, I'm happy not to live in the land of the prudes...... that pretends to nickname itself land of liberty!

Marseil.

I have to agree with you on this one, Marseil. I do not understand why someone is harassed while washing their vehicle. You would think the guy was naked.

Bob (in USA)

I'm wondering if Marseil ever gets tired of making the US look bad. Must we insult another to make ourselves look better? That's very juvenile behavior.

I'm not proud of every person in our country, but I'm terribly proud of the fact that all those people are allowed to exist IN our country. And I don't have to bash another country in order to show my pride.

We Europeans learnt the hard way, through centuries of wars, the consequences of nationalism. So if you ask Europeans, you will find they are a lot less nationalistic than most Americans. Also there is a lot less relation between nationalism and religious beliefs. No "God bless America" here, nor "I'm proud to be American", or anything like this.....

However, you have to understand that, since the end of WWII, and especially since the end of Communism, the whole world is under an always stronger influence from the US. What goes in the US expands to the rest of the world, often a few years later.

So when prudishness increases in the US, when repression against showing any hint of skin increases, there is a fear it expands to the ret of the world. I've been living in the same place for the last 20 years, and there is a lot less skin exposed every year, under the combined influence of US and islamic religiosities.

So, let me be happy I don't live in such a repressed country, and we still have more freedom here.

CP, what you take for 'bashing', because of your nationalistic feeling, is expressing opinions. And I take calling me 'juvenile' as a compliment.

Marseil.

I appreciate your words. And your explanation is very well thought out and clear. I understand your standpoint historically and socially. From your perspective you are showing your own nationalism by stressing how much you appreciate living in your country.

I am always impressed at how Europeans can see a bit broader on the scope historically. I can also understand how expressing that broader stroke can be interpreted as not only heavy handed but also arrogant. I will admit that I interpret some of your comments as condescending because they appear very condescending. However, I have a better understanding of your standpoint now.

I also hope that you recognize that your comments can and do often come off as if an adult is talking to children. And because of that, people may respond negatively to them.

Thanks for your response.

And a couple precisions.....

From your perspective you are showing your own nationalism by stressing how much you appreciate living in your country.
I never said how much I appreciate living in my country, but in Europe. The European Union is not a country, but an association of countries. I'd be happy with any evolution of the EU towards federalism, as I don't feel the French politicians have done very well over the last decades, and I hope European level politicians could be better. FOr instance, the Euro has been a lot better managed than the Franc ever was. My point is not to be nationalistic, as, I strongly believe nationalism unavoidably leads to wars and massacres.

I also hope that you recognize that your comments can and do often come off as if an adult is talking to children. And because of that, people may respond negatively to them.
I'm sorry if you take my words this way. I try to express myself as an adult talking to adults.

Marseil.

When did Europe get to be the way it is? I mean with nude beaches and nude sunbathing in the city parks? Surely you cannot claim that it has always been that way. But I am not suggesting that it isn't that way now, but only wondering when and how the change too place.

I lived in Germany for two years and it was considerably more formal and "dressed up" than it was in the United States at the time. That isn't to say it was old fashioned or anything since they were already wearing styles that only became common or popular in the states a few years later.

I also realize that nudism began in Germany, well before any of us were born. But at the same time, it was Germany, not France, not Italy, not Spain, etc. It would be interesting to learn what conditions were present to allow the birth and growth of the nudist movement, however weak or strong it may have been at any one time.

I would appreciate your comments.

guess these would have been indecent too. the gray ones are my fave to wear to the gym or washing my car.
I live in Texas where it is too hot to care about "indecency" or offending someone. hell I have seen off duty officers in similar work out gear here

They look cool and comfortable to wear and very hot to look at!!
I agree that the gray ones would be my favorite also.

I love the gray ones too!!! I've seen off duty officers work in similar attire as well.

So I'm sitting in the company cafeteria minding my own business, eating lunch and just sort of looking around the room when I notice at the table of guys next to me one of the guys is showing fuzzy butt-crack. Now we're talking MAJOR furry butt-crack. I nearly had an accident right there.

I don't know if he was going commando but he might as well have been. Probably 35yo, caucasian with very dark curly hair so maybe Italian or something... (hey,we're in Pittsburgh!) and very very handsome in a smouldering sort of way. Anyway, he had probably a good two inches of fuzzy ass showing below his non-tucked in shirt because when seated his pants were riding so low... and I'm talking a GOOD two inches.

Fortunately I was finished with my lunch just as he stood up to go back to get something from the line. I walked over with my tray and said, "Excuse me." (I know, I am so creative with pickup lines.) He replied, "I'm sorry" and moved out of the way. I countered, "No, I hope you don't mind but, dude, you are showing major butt-crack there.

Actually, I did tell him he was showing major butt-crack, and to be careful if there are any ladies in his office. He just chuckled and grinned, and said "Thanks."

True story!

I keep looking for him, but haven't seen him since that day...

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