hell, i hear the new "golden boy" of these tard promotions, Ryan Edmonds, recently went around bragging about how he says he was trained by his dad, but is really self-trained. For real? Why would you even joke about that? It just goes to show you that these idiots will book whoever without even checking credentials. Yet, if you talk to them, they want respect and to be thought along the likes of a ROH or an IWC. its all bullshit to me, that's why i said they're all the same. these promoters run their shows worse than a cubscout fundraiser.