MR A BELL from Rotherham.
I don't think I will see another worse and inept refereeing performance this season
coasting at 3-1 Our Keeper jumps for a high ball and is penalised for pulling how can the F*** can he be pulling when he is jumping for the ball? even thier assitant manager didn't think it was a penalty.
Second one thier forward falls over the ball and Mr Potato Head gives it. I'm so angry.
When you're playing crap on a wet November Wednesday somewhere on a ploughed field you'll get a penalty due to a stray german-shepherd knocking over your centre forward for which you'll get a penalty, score and scrape a flukey point which you in no way deserved for the previous 89 minutes and 59 seconds.
Should have sent 2 of thier players off .
1st pen. Has he never heard of Isaac Newton!! how can you be penalized for pulling down when your jumping up
to catch the ball.
2nd pen guy falls over ball .The ref had the cheek to say apparently after the game, so i've been told, that it was NOT! a pen.Whats going on ? so we will get our bit back on that windy wet night in december? The next time he refs us he will no doubt give us two pens,hang on got to go go go Im falling up off my chair into the statosphere.
It wasn't just 1 decision it was 2 that he got wrong.
I would have complained if we had won becuase he was that poor, I have just found out that after the game he said he wasn;t a penalty
Bastard
Surely a ref who admits afterwards that he made a mistake should be congratulated for his honesty?
Now, if he was to say that he knew it wasn't a penalty at the time but gave it anyway, then complain all you like to the FA. Otherwise, shut the **** up (unless you're willing to try reffing yourself... no? thought not)
don't bore people with that "why don't you become a referee" drivel.. if you are in a restaurant and get poor service you don't head off to waiter school. same in any other task
refs put themselves up for the job, collect the pieces of silver and at times are frankly power crazed egotistical imbeciles with as much common sense as my 1 year old spaniel. as has been mentioned before being consistent would be nice. elbows one way free kick other way play on all through a game. we've all seen this happen and similar on countless occasions
Well done Jim, referees are employed and if anyone else in another profession made the amount of mistakes that referees do then they'd be sacked.
Goosehunter, if you were at the match yesterday you would have noticed the referee doing absolutely all he could in order for you to win the game. At least he was consistent (in giving Whitby all of the decisions). Oh, and in my opinion just to get a point from Whitby at home is a bad result.
Any other (decent) referee and we'd had won that game yesterday comfortably. Whitby were poor and didn't look like scoring.
Why shouldn't you put yourself in their shoes (whether referees or waiters)? Criticising other people without appreciating the difficulties of their task is like having a go at a spastic for not walking straight.
And no, they're not employed - they are volunteers who receive expenses. Are you going to have a go at the St Johns next time one of your players gets injured? Thought not...
Some people, when their team fail to win, look for an excuse. And very rarely do they point the finger at their own players. Leek Town lost yesterday, and some of the players performed poorly. Witton played better than we did and deserved the three points. And if anything, most of the 50/50 decisions went our way. See - it can be done!
As for 'why not become a referee' being boring, what about the posts on this forum EVERY SINGLE WEEK slagging off the refs. Now that's what I call boring!
guys stop fighting please...although both referees I've seen for home league matches so far at Matlock have both been atrocious. Don't know if we've just been unlucky or what, but I'm hoping the standard will pick up pretty sharpish...when I won't be there of course coz I'm heading off to Norway tomorrow, so bye peeps! Norwegian footie here we come!
burton game last season was blatent proof of throwin a match where the ref added 9 mins of added time for no reason to get burton a point.
so stop moanin about refs unless ur gonna moan wen they give it in favour of u guys wen ur bottom again, although no help this season from the league plz, especially @ the expense of a good team
As a journalist I write what I see, not what someone else tells me I should have seen. And, yes, the 'were you at the same match?' question often gets asked. A referee gives decisions (right or wrong, but not bent) on the basis of what HE sees, not what someone in the crowd (or on this forum) tells him he should have seen.
Have you noticed how many county FA's are appealing for new refs? Without them there will be no game. And if all they get is the abuse of idiots who know no better, how many will take it up? So lay off, and give 'em a chance - unless by being 'without sin' yourself you qualify to cast the first stone, and somehow I doubt that.
I agree with Brian and Gordon on this one. All the Hyde fans whinging sound like a load of spoilt kids. Every fan can recite a list of games which they lost because of the ref, how many can recall games they won because of a dive by their forward whcih the ref gave a pen for?
One of the biggest games in Chorley's history, the 1995-6 FA Trophy semi-final, went our way because of a dodgy decision (Andy Thorpe, the man of the match, was booked rather than sent off for a professional foul on about 25 mins). There have been others I'm sure.
And if refs were sacked for poor performance as judged by fans, there would be not one single ref at work the following weekend. The comparison with workers in other industries is spurious, they are judged by their colleagues, not partisan bystanders.
I like the comparison with the waiter though somehow I dont suppose you spend all your time sat in the restaurant slagging the waiter off and then asking all the other waiters/waitress' if their mate could actually see your table and that the old couple sat opposite you couldn't possibly be his parents.
same old Hyde United. Always whinging.
I tell who has the right to moan.
Bishop Auckland and Osset.
I was gutted to hear we dropped two points away to Hyde again.
Keep on moaning, your're making yourselves sound more pathetic by the minute...
> same old Hyde United. Always whinging.
I tell who has the right to moan.
Bishop Auckland and Osset.
I was gutted to hear we dropped two points away to Hyde again.
Keep on moaning, your're making yourselves sound more pathetic by the minute...
That's right kids, it's time to bring up the whole Hyde United, Ossett Town and Bishop Auckland thing again (and I'm sure it will be the first of many times this season). Just because we ended up benefactors from something which had nothing to do with Hyde United has got nothing to do with this subject.
Anyway, why shouldn't we moan and whinge about the referee at Saturday's match - isn't that what this forum is for?
As for the referees being volunteers - apologies, I didn't realise this - I thought that they were employed for this job. However, the amount of simple mistakes that are made is ridiculous. Granted, you can't get everything right, but when you're paying money to see your team hopefully playing well and winning matches you don't want to have your afternoon/evening ruined by the referee. Perhaps we should take focus away from the referee in the Whitby v Hyde game - Goosehunter has raised the point about the referee when they played Burton Albion last season. Burton equalised in the 7th minute of injury time (I think) when apparently the amount of added time given was unjustified. Had Whitby not had a good end to the season then those 2 points would have been vital - Whitby Town could've been relegated, they could've gone bust.
"Whitby Town could've been relegated, they could've gone bust"
The Phobic Fernmeister. How your words reveal your true self.
How you would love Whitby, Osset and Bishop Auckland to all go bust. In fact get rid of all the teams who don't adhere to your self-styled mould. All to disappear in a Brigadoon night. Don't stop there Tom, not now. Hey, go and bankrupt Yeovil, Dagenham & Redbridge and the whole darn Conference to get Hyde supporters a rollercoaster ride of a nose-bleed in non-leagues dizzy heights. And with ITV Digital, Bradford City's overspend, Wimblekeynes and Bury/Cambridge/Carlisle/Lincoln/.... without a paddle surely only Uri Gellar's bendy-spooned Exeter City can prevent Hyde's entry to Division 1.
Some people might maintain that there are no good referees but how about giving a bit of credit when its due. In our two home games this week, I thought we had two quite decent refs - never really noticed either of them which is always a good sign. Both of them were from Manchester - Mr.E.J.Tarry and Mr.K.G. Evans
Like Jim says we only want consistency, the penalty that was given against our keeper, If that decision was given every week then I wouldnlt have any qualms but you probabely won;t see that decision again.
Anyway it's gone now we only have 1 point from Saturday and we have to dust ourselves down and start again at Worksop.
"Whitby Town could've been relegated, they could've gone bust"
it is virtually impossible for us to go bust.
we live from week to week on a shoestring, so if the shoestring breaks, we have to buy a new one, you know, £2.50 from woolies.
anyway, all things even themselves out over a season. its like cricket. get a knick and you don't walk, then don't moan when you get a dodgy lbw desision.
If you are prepared to take dodgy desisions one way, don't moan about the other way, it only makes you sound like a bad loser (or in this case drawer!)
As for bishops/osset etc... I know that wasn't Hydes fault, but just think what the messages of moan would have been like on here if Tom and Luke had been from either of those two clubs. good grief
I think that the way to judge if a referee was pants is to see if both sides think he was pants.
The Ashton v Celtic referee was pure pants. And the Ashton lot agree.
He was inconsistant, constantly in the wrong place, looking in the wrong direction. He was suckered far to easily (by both sides), had never heard of the advantage rule, broke up play (for both sides) and just couldn't control the game.
To top it off, he doesn't even know the rules of football.
The Ashton keeper (Truman) poleaxed Celtic's wniger (Fitzgerald) when the guy got to the ball first. No where near the ball.
Any other player and he'd have waled - got a yellow card instead. "Oh it wasn't intentional" Rubbish, intention is irrelevant; if a foul was given, so should a red card.
Then, with a few minutes to go, Ashton were breaking (Miller I thik) chasing a long punted ball up field, and Parkinson handballed it to stop Miller's run. Quite intentional, quite effective, and he should have walked.
He didn't, proving conclusively that the ref doesn't know the rules.
I give examples from both side ni the hope that I'm not going to be called biased.
One other thing - when are we going to see this 'clear air' offside rule implemented? It's been in force all season, and it's still not being used.
Didn't the 'clear air' rule come from an interview with Philip Don? I'm sure I heard soon after that the ruling WASN'T going to be used this season after all.
There's nothing about it in the 'Laws of the game' section on the FA website.
