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big question

January 30 2003 at 9:10 PM
goosehunter  (Login goosehunter)
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there comes a time when each club goes through large money worries, ie gateshead, barrow etc etc.
but with premier**** footballers raking in over 10 grand a week (a basic nurses average salary) there comes a point where everyone questions money.
so here is a question i put to all fans on this site, would you like to see a local or national club go bust - apart from the local rivalries like whitby/bishops heed/spartans etc for a reason that they cant attract the fans and cant pay their players. or the york city story.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ANOTHER CLUB GO BUST TO SEE YOUR TEAM BENEFIT??
PLEASE REPLY

 
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Robin Ashton
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195.93.48.14

Big clubs

January 30 2003, 11:58 PM 

If you work in a corner shop do you want Asda to go bankrupt to help you?? If York City go out of business do 2,500 York City fans suddenly become non-league fans? Or do they suddenly realise it's not that far to Middlesboro or Leeds and actually they could go and watch them instead? Or is it off to the pub and drown your sorrows time?
Of course we'd all love to be earning 10K a week, but this thing about big clubs and small clubs is down to the fact that big clubs have been run better than small clubs and thats why they've got where they are. EG 1885 Ashton United played Man Utd in a final on a similar footing, more progressive people took charge at Man U and got them in the league, as did our neighbours Glossop and Stalybridge. No club has a divine right to be a big club, you earn it and make it happen, are you listening Bristol, Cardiff etc? Big cities, small clubs.
Clubs at this level shouldn't be waiting for some fans to trickle down because another team went bust, they need to be developing youth sides, community programmes and attracting the future fans through their own hard work and making their club a friendly and attractive proposition.

 
 
gordon
(Login gordonalf)
195.92.168.163

going bust

January 31 2003, 12:29 PM 

I don't think any football fan worthy of that title would ever want to see any club going out of business. Sometimes clubs find problems that are not of their own making, e.g. Arnold Town who could fold at the end of the season if they don't find a new home, because like Denaby last season they're being forced off their ground. Or Eastwood (chairman/sponsor pulls out). But even where it is down to financial mismanagement, why should the fans of that club suffer? Someone who misunderstood another posting of mine on a different thread some time ago pointed out, quite rightly, that football is a fellowship, a brotherhood, especially at this level. You might want to beat your brother at football or whatever game you're playing, but you wouldn't wish him dead.

 
 
Al
(Login _Al_)
195.92.168.174

Re:Big Question

January 31 2003, 2:51 PM 

In general, as Gordon says, I would not wish clubs to fold.

There are a couple of exceptions.

Where a club exists because it "stole" another club from its fans to achieve its status. For example in Scotland, Livingston stole Meadowbank Thistle and Airdrie Utd stole Clydebank from their fans, or in England where Wimbledon has been stolen from its fans. Any club who has willfully killed another club to feed itself forfeits any right to sympathy.

I would also not shed a tear at the demise of a club whose "fans" were persistantly spreading racist or sectarian hatred or violence if no effort were being made to clean up the problem. But I would feel sorry for any genuine football supporters it had.

 
 
goosehunter
(Login goosehunter)
213.122.160.229

thank you

January 31 2003, 11:19 PM 

you have restored my faith in football fans

 
 
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