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I've tried to bite my tongue all year, because I didn't want to jump on the bash the Grizz bandwagon... but I can't hold it in any longer. I will try not to bash the team but there is an elephant in the room and I'm going to bring it up.

While I admire Lennie's loyalty ...... this has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. Robertson has to go. I don't care whether they trade him or just cut him, this 5-year experiment has been an absolute bust!! If they got rid of him it would be addition by subtraction!!

At the game vs. the Penticton, you have the young fellow DeJong playing with number 8. Good thing, because that kid is the real deal. The trouble is....by his solid play, it shows the serious flaws in Robertson's game. Each year in this league Robbie has been paired with the best D-man on the team....he had to be !!

Look at the very good d-men they have let go over the last couple of years alone, in favour if keeping Robertson - each and every one of them could have improved the Grizz team. They are too numerous too name.

Trade Robertson? If he is as good as Lennie says (remember the all-star comment at the beginning of the year?), then maybe the Grizz could trade him straight up for Tebbutt in Langley. This trade would benefit threefold... the Grizz could get a proven player who has grit (which the Grizz are seriously lacking), Tebbutt would get a chance to go to a team that has the " potential" to make the playoffs...and the piece de resistance you could bring in some new blood on D. You never know - you could package Robertson with say, Ursic and possibly upgrade the 'D'.

The Grizz, as a whole, except for the aforementioned....and in spite of the Leadership at the top, have some good players who are giving their all each game out.

Go Grizz
Ollie

Your wish is Lennie's command. Robertson will be gone by Monday. To Vernon. For futures. You're welcome.

The nonsense in Victoria originates in Len Barries office. He can't coach, he can't manage and he certainly can't run a successful business. He has traded better players than he has on the roster now and seems incapable of adapting to the systems used by other coaches in the league, coaches who weren't primadonnas in the WHL. Another loss in PR tonight even thought they outshot the Kings. If all your coaching knowledge can create is a run and gun swarm attack used in atom hockey then expect your team to get beat. The Grizz don't have a chance of making the playoffs with the greasy mullet coaching.

18 wheeler...generally speaking, you tend to attack and slam the Grizz, rather than bring anything constructive to the table. My comments earlier suggesting dumping Robertson were based on watching him play over the past 5 years. Your gig is all about personal attacks against the Grizz head coach/owner. Pllease bring something more to the table!!

is robertsons dad a minor owner of the grizlies because i dont know why he has made it this long on there roster

Robertsons Dad is Lennies personal real estate agent the kid won't be going anywhere until he ages out so sad when Lenny runs the shows and does'nt care what people think he will just snub you.

Trading Sean Robertson won't turn the Grizzlies season around but getting a real coach who can teach the game will.

Ollie... I don't know either of you and agree that 18 wheeler is more slanderous of Len than constructive about the hockey. I have often wondered if Len has somehow left a "nail" in one of 18 wheelers tires away from the rink! With that being said it would seem to me you have suggested this one player is the issue more than your share of times, possibly more than anyone has singled out one on the blog!

The pott/kettle theory has to come to mind as you both single out individuals as the problem, the issues in Grizz land are certainly larger than this one player, and Len as the decision maker yes, but is it his poor judgement alone or the cascading effect of those he hires?

Robbie has been given every chance by Len, along with a very select few others, unlike all the careers he dumps on with his trades to nowhere after Gervais gives them the sniff test with 1-3 shifts a period and then out the door. It's funny, guys who has played so much hockey haven't figured out living vicariously through one of your six favorites won't cut it! Len and company are running a living in the past club designed around their emotional desires, NOT developing players, which is the key to winning in this league...AKA Ferner.

Please give me my turn to sit next to you on the stove....Lead by Len Barrie and the destructive choice of putting Gervais in any role has created the one dimensional game loaded with one dimensional players...all that have to have some of each of them or thier gone! Sorry boys, your forgetting about the role the other 19 players played, I'm guessing they did when played as well! The Victoria Grizzlies organization is the dreaded puppy mill of the league!!

This group of coaches/management again have the league leading revolving door of players. They will again be doomed with this proven to fail approach and is the root to their problems.

Ollie, 18wheeler, Robbie is only the product of disfunctional leadership, pick anyone at the the top, they all play a roll in operating the mill, the sum of their decisions will continue to cost them the experience of a championship team. A new coach couldn't even do it now, only 5 returning players left, too many through the mill to mention, call it what you will, blame who you wish, but this will never be a winning formula!

I know that a lot of people are blaming the low attendance at Grizzly games on the fact that the Royals are now in town AND the sputtering economy. I personally think that a lot of people in town do not like Len Barrie and are staying away in droves.

I have been watching Sean closly for the last few seasons and I don't agree with what you're saying. Robertson is the D-man who keeps the puck in and makes passes that lead to goals. I don't think that there is any merit to what you are saying. Trading him would be a huge blow to the rest of the team. The other players voted him as their captain 2 years in a row and that means that they have put their trust and faith in him. To trade the captain halfway through a season makes no sense. If it is announced today that Robertson has been traded it will make wednesdays game against Cowichan and the rest of the season very interesting. if the management chooses to do this I hope they know what they are doing. Also i hope that it will not affect the rest of this talented mans career.

19-Sep-11 The Vernon Vipers Hockey Club transfers the playing rights of Jarryd Ten Vaanholt (91)(F) to the Victoria Grizzles Hockey Club in exchange for future considerations.

I'm not sayin' ...... just sayin'.

You read it here first!!

Now I'm sayin'.

Huge contribution factored in on 20 of 123 goals... hmmmm 16% thats a solid offensive presence, he contributed more the the opposition scoring on them a true liability. Fire Sale coming out of Victoria in the next 2 to 3 weeks.

Ya that's right give your head a good shake because you are definitely not watching Sean Robertson the 5 year Grizz player 2 year captain out on that ice, you are obviously just acting out on some personal grudge you clearly have. Robertson is one classy player on and off the ice a natural leader that has the respect of all of his teammates and coaches. He is out on that ice playing with JR B kids showing them the game and working with them to become more skilled out on the ice. He is also out there with the best on his team cause that's where he should be. Take a look at the stats he puts up great numbers for his team and that's a fact that you cannot argue with. The Grizz have lost a major part of their team now that he is gone and it will be up to guys like DeJong to attempt to fill the role that Robertson has left behind.
Robertson's dedication and skill to the game of hockey and the Grizzlies is clearly visible and he has proved himself time and time again including breaking his leg and then coming back to put up 43 points in 60 games in his return season and is well on his way to exceeding that this season. The Grizzlies have just said goodbye to one highly skilled hockey player and one Great Kid.

Classy off and on the ice I think NOT.

If he had what it takes to be a leader he would have kicked the players back on the ice when they retreated during the Teddy Bear night. Oh excuse me he was one of the players retreating along with the assistant coaches.