I think that if you are going to be involved in teaching my children then you should be as educated as the teachers teaching the children.
It does not matter how much "common sense" you have you must know how your decisions will affect the system.
Any person who is running for school board should have experience in the school system. Just my opinion.
The process of educating children is complicated. Of course, if there is someone telling them what to do and how to vote, then it should not be any problem for them.
Evidently ‘Common Sense’ is the only thing you need to run for any office. Common sense tells you education is important. "Common sense" tells you that in order to do your job efficiently then you must be willing to study. The current School board member for Sandlick has had ample time to learn. Do you think he has?
Do you think Sandlick will continue to grow with the decisions that they are makeing. Think very hard when you cast your vote this November. You will only grow as much as your elected officals are willing to grow.
I think you should back up and look at the circumstances as well.
October 24 2007, 4:49 PM
If you know anything about our current Sandlick District School Board Member, you would know that he grew up in a time when education was not as important and feeding your family.
He had to start work at an early age and that meant he had to leave school behind for a while.
But he did complete his GED and probably has more mine training certifications than most of the current college educated CEO's of mining companies.
I don't know how you can sit back and say that someone is uneducated and not up to par to be a School Board Member because they do not have a teaching degree.
I suppose that you would think a person should not be president because they never attened college to get a law degree.
Abraham Lincoln
Sixteenth President of the U.S. in 1860 and 1864
Formal Education: About 1 year total
Degrees: Honorary degrees from Knox College (1860), Columbia (1861), Princeton (1864)
I suppose by your standards he should never have been President.
Ah shucks, for about old Abe, we live in a different time where an education is almost a must to understand how our laws work. Education is very important in our leaders today.
wants to know about mr. raines' education, what about mr. barton's? what does he have to offer or what knowledge does he have that makes him any different than mr. raines? just curious I have never heard anyone talk of mr. barton's educational background. anyone want to share?
My grandaughter got her job, but it sure wasn't because Donnie Raines didn't try to keep her fr it, in fact he voted against her because he wanted someone who didn't have their teaching certificate to have the job, In my opinion if a person works hard and earns their degree's, then they are better qualified for the job. You take this and chew on it awhile and please cool down, you haven't lost anything:"have you"/
And you can set on what Bartlick girl tells you and smile maybe your children arent well enough off to even have a job or maybe there just not smart enough you know..
Thanks Joe, but this girl didn't have a dad to give her help, she worked and tried hard, she didn't have an easy life, but she was determined to get an education. We should be thankful that some of our young ppl choose to work and pay taxes rather than expect an SSI check each month, or have a couple of kids to get money fr the state and local govt. We should hold these young ppl in high esteem and support them and by the way her husband was a friend of yours, may still be.
That little piece of paper shows that you have the determination to complete something that you started. It shows that you are committed to a course of action. That little piece of paper stands for something and if someone earns it than it is not your place to belittle it. You must give credit where credit is due. A college education is not easy to get. Or every one would have it.
College does not go away. You can earn it in as little as 4 years or take 10. If you want it you will get it some how or some way.
Abraham Lincoln was not my president. Jefferson Davis was my 16th president. I think that the education system is doing a great injustice not to teach our kids about this great president, and the whole truth about the Civil War.
Re: I think you should back up and look at the circumstances as well.
October 26 2007, 5:06 PM
Times are different. There is much involved in educating your children than you think. Talk to a teacher about children's behaviors these days, the support from home concerning homework or even advice on what a child needs to make it in today's classrooms. Talk to educators about SOLS, testing data, intervention strategies, reports, the lists is long. Yeah, times are different.
In order to educate you must be educated. Its a FACT.
October 26 2007, 7:41 PM
We do not live in the same time that Mr. Rains grew up.
Mr. Rains has been given a chance to improve the school system. What has he done? If he is serious about this job what has he done in 8 years to further his education? We live in the present and making references to the past does nothing to further your cause.
The fact is in order to educate you must be educated. It’s a FACT.
Nothing in his past history has prepared him for this job. Nothing that he has done since holding office has further his cause. He has had 8 years to do something. What has he done to ensure his security in this job? What conferences or in-service classes has he attended? What has he done now? Not when he grew up. We all grew up in tough times. What makes you stand out is what you get accomplished with what you have been given.
Mr. Rains received my vote in the last election. What has he done to work for my vote this time? NOW not then.
He has been given his chance. There are too many rumors about his personal life to stand as a role model for the children of this district.
I personally will vote for Mr. Barton and hopefully we will see if he is willing to work for the students.
Unfortunately neither candidate has experience in the school system and so we must choose from what we have.
Mr. Barton does take the election seriously enough to attend the forum. Does MR. Rains expect the voters of Sandlick to just give the position to him because he is the incumbent? Or because he is a democrat. And I know the candidates do not run on party tickets but come on we all know.
I voted for him twice I will not vote for him again. He has failed to prove himself again.
You gave facts and information on how you see the race which is what is needed.
As for education needed to educate, this is ture.
But they are not going to be teachers.
I have nothing against Rocky and feel he will make a great School Board Member.
What bothers me and why I am posting this as well as other posts, is when people put others down because they don't or did not have the opportunity to get a higher education.
An education does not make one a better, nor smarter person.
This is in regard to the Garbage Man Post about Abe Lincoln
October 28 2007, 10:55 PM
Please tell me you are joking when you make the comparison.
As someone stated, it was a different era. You say children are the same. Really? I don't think so. One must look at how young and old children were in the 1860's. The work they did, the marriages at early ages, the responsibilities were the certainly not the same. Lest we not forget the respect issue. Children are "wiser" now. More access to adult material, which makes them "wiser." No not smarter, in terms of "life." Children are allowed to question things now that they were not permitted to question in the 1860's. Do you honestly think kids don't question why it is that one would not have to have an education to OVERSEE education? I am in the high school and I do know that they question such things.
So Abe Lincoln was qualified to do that job in the era. However, you need to check out Smithsonian documents and letters Abe Lincoln wrote. You will see that Abe Lincoln, all though noble at times, was not the perfect President.
So in conclusion, there should be qualifications concerning education for School Board Members. Would you want the American Medical Association or the Food and Drug Administration to be regulated by your Joe Average GED recipient? Or better still, please respond to this: Would you elect Abe Lincoln with his same qualifications in 2008?
Nope sorry garbageman... you try to sound like you are wise to all aspects, however you come across as the stereotype for this area! A know-it-all who really knows nothing-at-all!!
I read your treads just for a laugh now! You jump onto every thread and then bash someone not to read them.. As they earlier stated, then you would have to stop reading this forum! Why do you have to jump into every conversation?? Just because you CAN read them, does not mean you have to provide you opinion! Because seriously, you do not make sense!