Turkish View: Nothing in this region will be the same again after the flotilla disasterJune 1 2010 at 11:23 AM
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Gaza Raid Spells End of Turkish-Israeli Alliance
June 1, 2010
"Our relations will never be the same again, said Soli Özel, a political analyst at Bilgi University. Ali Birand, a well-known television commentator who usually espouses moderate views, sees the much-praised Turkish-Israeli alliance at an end. "There is no way of fixing it. From now on we won't be able to speak of a Turkish-Israeli alliance" he said.
The two countries established links during the Cold War in a marriage of convenience in which each side pursued its own security interests. In the mid-1990s, the partnership was underscored with defense cooperation agreements. The Israelis supplied Phantom jets and cruise missiles while the Turks opened their airspace to Israeli military exercises. Indeed, >>arms contracts accounted for some two thirds of the $3 billion worth of bilateral trade between the two countries in 2009
Eventually Israel will dump Turkey as strategic partner and make similar alliance with Greek, the sworn enemy of the Turks. Historically the Greeks have been more benign occupiers of Israel then the bloody Turks who ruled Israel for centuries with an iron fist, and who presently are working subtly to establish their iron-hand rule over Israel and finish what Hitler started. The flotilla incident was a psychological operation planned by Turkey in order to rally Turkish masses and other nations against Israel. Coordinated attacks from Gog --Egypt toward the south-- and from Magog --Turkey toward the north-- will color the land of Israel red with blood.
Huge Very Wild Demostration by Israelis On Front Of Turkish Embassy in Tel AvivNo score for this post
|June 1 2010, 7:56 PM |
Turkey Unhappy with USA, May Punish Those Who Follow The Rule Of Jungle by GNo score for this post
|June 1 2010, 8:13 PM |
"Today is a turning point in history. Nothing will be same again,” Erdoğan saidNo score for this post
|June 1 2010, 8:38 PM |
Calling on both the international community and Israel citizens to respond to the bloody massacre against a Gaza-bound aid flotilla, Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdoan says the event is a turning point in history. In a emotional speech in Parliament, Erdoan reiterates his support for Palestinians, but tempers his harsh words against Israel by saying that protests should not be extended to attacking Jewish citizens of Turkey....[Those Jews in Turkey will totally be eliminated in few years a-la-turk]
Turkey obtained what it wanted: Isolating Israel From The World, Next comes THE KILLNo score for this post
|June 1 2010, 8:57 PM |
The Turkish pack of wolves have isolated their victim from the herd, now killing the isolated Israel would be easy.
"A convoy of 3 Turkish ships was intending to deliver humanistic aid. The convoy was not only comprised of Turks but also an international organization. The Turkish part of the convoy was organized under supervision of Ankara. Ankara could have prevented the incident but did not. On the contrary it facilitated the job of people resisting"
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...drawing attention away from what is about to happenNo score for this post
|June 1 2010, 10:22 PM |
This writing below from a blogger living in Israel is important because it was posted on May 30, just a day before Israeli soldiers attacked the so-called freedom flotilla and brought it it to the seaport of Ashdod, to deliver the aid to Gaza by land after inspection and clearance.
"They say they are bringing humanitarian aid to the poor Gazans. But the truth is that these poor Gazans are not hurting for want of humanitarian resources. Israel allows several thousand trucks with such aid into the Gaza strip every day. The smuggling tunnels from Egypt have turned into a huge business which has flooded the markets with everything you can think of, including American products we can't even find here in Israel! Not to mention the constant build-up of weapons coming through 100 or more of these tunnels in preparation for the next war against us!
"But with the arrival of these ships flying the Turkish flag and carrying over 1,000 pro Palestinian activists and journalists, there is a real possibility of a clash developing between Israel and Turkey. Israel will stop them today if they haven't already done so. The Special Forces will board and take command of these vessels and bring them to the port of Ashdod. There the cargo will be offloaded and searched for weapons. If none are found the goods will be taken to the Gaza Strip. Israel and most of the world knows this is not a humanitarian effort but simply an anti-Israel propaganda plot. This is what most political analysts believe is the reason for the whole charade. Yet I believe there is another reason - and a really large one!
"It is a known fact that Syria has over 1,000 ballistic missiles and reportedly Hamas has been supplied with 1,000 scuds capable of hitting anywhere in Israel. Now Hamas is saying they are ready for "the games to begin". This now presents a lot of 'fronts' for little Israel to fight on at one time. The way it looks from this vantage point, the only way Israel can possibly defend itself against such odds is to use Nukes. That will surely bring what little support we now have around the world to a sudden end? I am sure you can see the Prophetic Word of God moving forward at what seems to be a much escalated pace?
"We here in Israel just went through 5 days of countrywide survival exercises in case of missile attacks. So, to get back to the ships trying to burst through the Gaza blockade, it seems obvious to me that it is but a smoke screen to draw attention away from what is about to happen.
Re: ...drawing attention away from what is about to happenNo score for this post
|June 3 2010, 6:12 AM |
"But the truth is that these poor Gazans are not hurting for want of humanitarian resources. Israel allows several thousand trucks with such aid into the Gaza strip every day. The smuggling tunnels from Egypt have turned into a huge business which has flooded the markets with everything you can think of, including American products we can't even find here in Israel!"
Wow! I didn't know Palestinians were living a prosperous life on their soil, at least what is left of!! Usual shameless jewish propaganda!
Re: ...drawing attention away from what is about to happenNo score for this post
|June 3 2010, 6:23 AM |
oh really Ara, when did you become a spokesman for the Palestinians? So what is it, uncivilized Muslims or Lying Jews? Why dont you and your NOW TURKISH BUDDIES (LOL) send a flotilla to Africa where there are more starving people? or how about stopping the emigration from Hayvanstan?
planned Oil pipeline from Turkey to Israel will now be canceledNo score for this post
|June 2 2010, 9:59 AM |
Because of Israel's aggression towards the Palestinians (in particular Gaza) it looks like the proposed pipeline from Turkey - Israel will now be canceled. We must remember that economically this was an extremely lucrative deal for Israel and would have given them much prosperity and now this, like the US pipeline is fast fading away.
It is therefore, in my opinion, that the US and Israel are now licking their wounds and would now like to see some conflict with not only Iran but also possibly Turkey. Add to this the existing tension between Israel - Syria - Lebanon and Palestine and one can see potential for major conflict in the region.
I am 100% sure that this current aid convoy and the resulting action was intentionally orchestrated to provoke a conflict between Israel and Turkey with the US looking on (and the UN) fully understanding the consequences if and aggressive interception took place (which it did).
This is a strange strange worldNo score for this post
|June 2 2010, 1:19 PM |
The Turkish parliament on Wednesday, June 2, unanimously adopted a declaration urging the Turkish government "to review political, military, trade and economic ties with Israel and take the necessary effective measures." also "The Israeli government should officially apologize for the attack, bring those responsible to justice and pay compensations to the victims," the declaration says.
Nothing was said about Turkey apologizing to Armenians because of 20th century Genocide and paying compensation to the Republic Of Armenia and about returning stolen Armenian lands & property by the Turkey to the rightful Armenia owners.
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|June 2 2010, 5:16 PM |
Don't worry guys. Tomorrow they will re-start licking each other.
Re: This is a strange strange worldNo score for this post
|June 3 2010, 8:17 AM |
As I said... soon they will lick each other again.
Mouradian: Post-Flottila Ties Between Turkey and Israel: Irreparable Damage or Just a Hiccup?
By: Khatchig Mouradian
BEIRUT, LebanonI have been following with horror the news and discussion on the Israeli attack on the flotilla of ships carrying aid to Gaza. The outrage here in Lebanon and the Arab world is palpable. What is even more evident is the pride with which people here speak about Turkeys heroic stand in the face of Israel.
Erdogan: International law has been trampled underfoot
On May 31, the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a statement in which it protested in the strongest terms the use of force by the Israeli Defense Forces against the civilians from many countries who want to transport humanitarian assistance to the people in Gaza.
The Turkish Foreign Ministry wrote that Israel has once again clearly demonstrated that it does not value human lives and peaceful initiatives through targeting innocent civilianssuch actions against civilians who are involved only in peaceful activities cannot be accepted. Israel will have to bear the consequences of these actions which constitute a violation of international law.
In turn, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said, It should be known that we will not stay silent and unresponsive in the face of this inhuman state terror, according to Hurriyet Daily News. International law has been trampled underfoot, Erdogan added.
Of course, few Arab commentators said anything about the irony in the statements above, and the many similar statements coming out of Turkey today. That is not surprising. After all, Turkeya strategic ally of Israelhas, in recent years, reached out to the Islamic world and presented itself as a defender of the Palestinian cause. Why rock the boat?
Some intellectuals, however, highlighted the hypocrisy of the Turkish state and of most Turkish commentators. On one online discussion board, Stergios Kaprinis, a psychiatrist from Greece, wrote: There is no doubt that the events are tragic. The Freedom Flotilla attack by Israeli commandos can only be described as an act of piracy. However, I have been following the reactions of the Turkish government and I must say that I am appalled at their hypocrisy. In the past 15 years, the Turkish government has ethnically cleansed large parts of Turkeys ethnically Kurdish southeast, has invaded Iraq more than a few times, and keeps occupying and colonizing the northern half of the Republic of Cyprus, a sovereign country, member of the UN and the EU. Yet today, the Turkish government has somehow managed to proclaim itself the defender of international law and protector of the oppressed. I am appalled at such hypocrisy, at the expense of the Palestinians
In an article published in the Huffington Post, Israeli writer Dana Agmon, noted: And finally, a word to the sponsorsTurkeydid anyone float into Turkey when it murdered over a million Armenians? Or did anyone do it when you arrested hundreds of Kurds, including children, merely four years ago and violated their rights? Or maybe when you invaded Cyprus?
An intellectual from Turkey told me that had the Kurds in Turkey had access to sea, God knows what kind of horrors would befall on those who tried to support them. Another noted how the discourse on the Palestinians in Turkey on one hand, and the Armenians and Kurds on the other, are so disparate, even among progressive Turkish intellectuals, that the double standards sicken me to my stomach. States are, by definition, hypocritical. But when intellectuals who present themselves as the beacons of enlightened thought engage in such hypocrisy, is there any hope left?
On June 3, Turkish President Abdullah Gul said, From now on, Turkish-Israeli ties will never be the same. This incident has left an irreparable and deep scar.
The myth of irreparable relations seems to be floating around the entire Islamic world since the attack on the flotilla. Arab news sources and analysts in the Middle East continue to insist that Turkish-Israeli relations have been damaged beyond repair. Regardless of what Turkish officials declare in their public statements, this is naiveté and wishful thinking at best.
What the Arab world fails to see is that the Turkish state cannot and will not bury its strategic relations with Israel because of the flotilla attack or in solidarity with the Palestinian people. Ankara is playing an ambitious political game in the Middle East. Yes, its tactical maneuvers are already reaching beyond the bounds of its strategic capabilities (and it might soon be forced to fold back), but to view the Turkish stateor even the current governmentas the extension of the Turkish street is self-deception.
Turkey and Israel will soon repair the damage done to their relations. Theres no two ways about it.
Turkey is Seeking Revenge Revenge Revenge Now?No score for this post
|June 3 2010, 9:01 AM |
June 2, Turkey's first ultimatum to Israel: release all the passengers of Flotilla Ships, including the seven members of Islamist terrorist groups who assaulted the Israeli boarding party or else..[The same day, at night, Israel responds by flying five planes out of Israel to Istanbul carrying hundreds of foreign passengers and nine bodies from the Turkish-led flotilla }
June 3, Turkey's second ultimatum to Israel: Lift the Gaza blockade at once or else...[Israel yet has to respond To Erdogan's ultimatum. If no respond came then Turkey will possibly attach an escort of Turkish warships and air force jets to accompany future direct aid flotillas to Gaza escalating the further the tensions between them and leading to confrontations between Turkish and Israeli forces] According to an opinion of one expert Turkey is seeking revenge revenge revenge now.
Re: Turkey is Seeking Revenge Revenge Revenge Now?No score for this post
|June 4 2010, 8:16 AM |
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