Steve chuck lyons here, I have done it all with axtell I have used these products since the begining and even have sold them. I currently am on my 2nd drawing board, and dodo bird, I own the big bear, crow, and just bought the vulture. I have a very old bird arm before the sleeve was included and I use all of these in my shows and walkarounds. To any one who is thinking of thier first purchase of a axtell product you need to know this, The product you buy will speak the moment it is seen. These characters have that much personality. The laughter begings before the puppet speaks. I have performed for the past 34 years and I will say that using the axtell products is a key to my success. Hey to all the clowns out there you are really missing something if your not using these puppets. You don't even have to be a ventriloquist, steve has that covered to with axtracts. But if if the puppet never says a word Ie kula of Kukula fran and ollie he can express such a wide range of expressions very easily for the performer. Steve I just want to say thank you for your work and effort, your products are worth the price because they make even a small time performer look big time. Thanks.