How much to charge for a casino job or cruise ship?
December 22 2009 at 4:36 PM
from IP address 184.108.40.206
First off, I understand that the answer to this can be very general depending on many factors. But I would like to have some general idea on how much to charge in case an opportunity comes along.
I have a hands free vent toucan, Taco. In the 6 months I have owned him I have come a long way in my routine with him and in my ventriloquism expertise. I have a solid 30 minute routine that I could do strictly with Taco right now.
I live in Louisiana, which has several casinos and next to Mississippi that also has casinos looking for different entertainment.
Anyway, yesterday, someone called me from a production company saying that they had a casino looking for a ventriloquist and someone they represent recommended me. This casino is about 200 miles from where I live. Anyway, they did get a ventriloquist from Texas to come to the casino. This production company asked me if I would be interested in performing, if the opportunity presented itself again. I said yes.
If this happens, I haven't the slightest idea how much to charge.
I also wonder the same thing about performing on a cruise ship.
Thanks to Taco, I have an act that is really unique. Magic wise, even though I have no really large illusions I do have many very good illusions that are very good and entertaining as well.
Any ideas on what to charge will be greatly appreciated.
I suggest talking to the agent. You can let them know what you normally ask for a show in your area. Often the agent takes a percentage of what you get so they are going to do the best they can for you. You might also consider the least you would actually do it for and add some to that. Most likely the agent will want a video before hiring you.
Fee for Casino & Cruises
January 4 2010, 1:19 PM
In my experience, you'll have more success getting to cruise ships through an agent (as stated before). They will take usually 10% to hire you. You'll also need much more than 30 minutes for cruises. There are different types of shows you would do on a ship. For example:
1. 2 45-55 min. dinner shows (duplicate show)
2. 2 30-40 min. cabaret shows (different material for each show)
3. 2 10-20 min. "variety show" bits
Sometimes you'll be on a cruise for a few days or a few months. You can be anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000 per week, depending on how good your act is, how "in demand" you are and how experienced you are.
Casino's don't require an agent per se. You can usually look at anywhere from $500 to $5,000 for shows 60-90 min. long. Again, it all depends on how good you are, how popular your show is and what the casino is willing to pay.
I hope this helps a little.
Newbies On A Cruiseship
January 4 2010, 4:44 PM
Hey tell me, now that were on the subject do the casinos take newbies or how much experience is required and the same for the cruise ships...Do they pay you based on your experience or is there a rule of thumb
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This message has been edited by njnvent5 from IP address 220.127.116.11 on Jan 4, 2010 4:45 PM
with all due respect
January 6 2010, 7:11 PM
Here are my thoughts on casino and cruise ships, with all due respect.
Some want to get these gigs just like schools and daycares. The problem there is you just don't walk into a casino or cruise ship and say "hire me". The same for schools, I don't understand why vents think they can break into the school market just by saying I want to do school shows. I have lived in Atlanta, Philly and Austin and all the schools are the same when it comes to hiring.
You have to have experience, be professional, have invoices and Fed ID # and if you have a criminal background, you might forget about doing school shows. Just because you have a show about no drugs doesn't make you a school assembly entertainer.
With all due respect, the same is with casino and cruise ships. My mentor Bill Boley told me if you do a bad cruise ship show you are on the first helicopter off the ship, and your career is over. Just because your family laughs at your routine, it is different with the real world out there.
I am now going on performing for 20 years, and I did not take a check until I really really ready deserved it, the first 6 years of performing I did not take a check, why?? Just because I have a puppet and have material and I smelled good didn't make me deserve a check. I wasn't ready, I could not captivate an audience, that's the real ticket of a pro
You want to do cruise ships, casinos, school shows, daycares, corporate gigs??, here is my advise.
with all due respect. you need to suffer for your art. Once you fail and fail and fail, you will stop failing and start succeeding and succeeding and when that happens your are worth your weight in gold.
I think about my business and why I am so successful and it is because the first 6 years of my being a vent, I sucked!!! I performed where ever there was a stage and I sucked!!! I did shows that clowns wouldn't even take and I sucked!!! but that gave me the experience and know how on making the right choices now and succeed. I kept at it and did not give up, I sought mentors that taught me the ropes. If I sucked they told me, I know my mentors would be proud of me today because I am living proof that in the end the tables turn and now I don't suck. I can now captivate an audience, that's the real ticket of success.
I am the texas vent who got this casino gig. I give this advise with my love for the vent community. I wish success upon all my vent friends but first you gotta pay your dues,
with all due respect.
January 6 2010, 9:45 PM
Thanks for sharing, Bob. I recommend to other readers that you visit Bob Abdou's website at www.mrpuppet.com and check out the sample video. He is an expert in several styles of puppetry.
January 6 2010, 9:47 PM
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