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Ya know I almost forgot about Cesar. The way that man can get a dogs attention and keep it is amazing. Me and the wife cant pass him up when we see him on TV. "click click ha thats neat, come here Josey daddy wants to try something" lol.
Leerburg is not for the faint at heart or thin skinned thats for sure, but how can you argue with someone who is completely for the dog. Wish I knew about him decades ago. I'm sure I would have been the idiot in some of his posts, but I would have learned.