Three different greens...April 9 2012 at 6:20 PM
|Dana Bell (Login DanaBellColors)|
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Response to Difference between Bronze
It's a bunch of confusion, but the colors were actually quite distinctive and easy to tell apart. One of the problems goes back to the days of the "discovery" of Bronze Green in some TBM parts. At the time there was no understanding that Dull Dark Green was also used, so some descriptions of Bronze Green were actually based on Dull Dark Green.
The big thing about Bronze Green was that it was generally a fairly oily looking paint, even though it was supposed to look flat. Working from the original Army 3-1 standard for #9 Bronze Green, Ke Kelly of the National Bureau of Standards described the color as a bit darker than 14050.
The Navy convinced the Army to adopt a "slight variation" of Dark Green #30 as a replacement cockpit color. This ANA standard was closest to 34092, but darker and perhaps a bit bluer. It looked like a pure forest green or pine green (if you harken back to the days when Crayola offered ALL the colors).
The problem was that many specifications called for Dull Dark Green #30, even though the ANA color really didn't look anything like that Black Green shade. Still, some manufacturers used this much darker shade, which was blacker than 34092.
Note that 34092 is the closest FS595a match to both versions of Dull Dark Green, even though the two colors are in no way identical. It's just that only one 595 number was close to either. (34092 was a good match for Medium Green 42, from which it was derived, but that color didn't match either version of Dull Dark Green.)
Add in individual paint producers variations, and a few contractor-specific colors (such as Douglas' preference for the yet-unidentified du Pont Pine Green) and a bunch of really neat colors could be found in those cockpits...
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