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P-39 Interior Color?

November 26 2007 at 9:35 AM
Ginger's Dad  (Login gingersdad)
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Does anybody know what the FS number is for the cockpit of the P-39 Airacobra? Bert Kinzey says in his "Detail & Scale" book that Bell used their own mix for the interior of the P-39, but he doesn't say what approximates this color. To me, it appears close to the int. green used on British fighters. Any help here appreciated. TIA

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Marty Perry
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Some Advice-

November 26 2007, 9:42 AM 

don't let Modeldad tell you that "Bell Green" never existed!

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Ah yes the P-39.

November 26 2007, 9:46 AM 

There is no documentation that there was ever an actual color called Bell Green. More likely a name given by plant employees for the cockpit color mix. Note that Curtiss did have a documented color for Curtiss Green which was a contracted for Interior Green produced by Berry Brothers.

There are two possibilities. On the later aircraft (from what model I don't belive is known) the interior was most likely simply interior green. Although other parts may have been subcontracted and appeared in the subcontractors interior color. Darker or lighter than the IG mixed at or for Bell. Note that the seat was most likely a phenolic resin compound similar in color and composition to the Spitfire seat.


This is an excellent site for an original Q:
http://community.webshots.com/album/17043878gBDRLAJTlb?start=0

On early models it could even have been a bronze green, as it has been noted that bronze green appears on the gear legs.

One thing to note that often gets overlooked on the P-39 is that yellow prop tips seemd to be more an option than standard. This went through the entire line.




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This message has been edited by modeldad from IP address 72.93.207.87 on Nov 26, 2007 10:03 AM
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Re: P-39 Interior Color?

November 26 2007, 3:55 PM 

P-39 cockpit colors: It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. (With apologies to Sir Winston Churchill.)

According to Dana Bell, the color called "Bell Green" was probably just Bell's interpretation of Interior Green. The period photos suggest something similar to Medium Green or Bronze Green. There are definitely variations from batch to batch. The P-39Q was the most widely produced version.

A preserved (not restored) Lend-Lease P-39Q-15 looks like this:







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Note how the color changes under light...

November 26 2007, 4:14 PM 

In this one it appears to be a darker version of IG.


Bronze green was quite green and "oily" looking.






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Almost looks like "Dark Green" FS-34079.....or

November 27 2007, 1:32 AM 

"Medium Green" FS-34102

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