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Checking on Bf 109G-5 detail

August 3 2010 at 7:28 PM
Joe McDonald  (Login Northwest48)
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I think I've got this right, but the windscreens in the Hasegawa kit have me a bit confused. I'm doing a G-5 which from drawings on the 109 Lair and the photo below of Barkhorn's G-5 show no air inlet on the starboard side of the cowl. I think there should be one on the port side however. The Hasegawa kit I have (1/48 scale) provides two windscreens, one with air inlets on both sides, and the other with an air inlet on the starboard side with the port blanked off. The instructions say to use that one for the G-5, but I think they have the inlets backward. I think I should use the one with both inlets and remove the one on the starboard side. Is that correct?

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(Login G.R.Morrison)
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Barkhorn's WNr.15909 is a G-6, not G-5

August 3 2010, 9:18 PM 

Your photo is from a sequence in the Bundesarchiv, and shows Barkhorn's WNr.15909 in the spring of 1944, a 'stock' Bf 109G-6. One of Hermann Graf's white-tailed machines from the JGr.50 was only ten later off the line: WNr.15919.

GRM

 
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Joe McDonald
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Thank you for the correction - but how many vents on G-5 cowl?

August 3 2010, 10:19 PM 

I haven't done any surgery on the windscreen yet.

 
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Joe McDonald
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OK - I think I've got it

August 3 2010, 11:24 PM 

Checked the line drawings again. G-5 One cockpit air inlet, starboard side. G-6, Two cockpit air inlets. The plane I'm doing I am pretty sure is a G-5 (W.Nr. 110089) flown by Gunther Rall in Spring of 1944 when he was shot down by members of Zemke's Wolfpack.

And, the Hasegawa instructions are correct. My brain is not happy.gif

 
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(Login mmoustaf)
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15909 is an Erla built G-6 (+)

August 4 2010, 2:48 AM 

However all G-5 built were built on Erla and they were spread among G-6s.

Hence all Erla built G-6 look like G-5's except of silikagel pellets, and head armor which on G-5 was different - the rear wall of the mid-canopy part.

All Erla G-6 had compressor fairing on the right side of the cowling under the "beule".
All Erla G-6 has separate rectangular gun-through ports like here (also an Erla built G-6)

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Another photos are here

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(Login G.R.Morrison)
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Yes, Rall's WNr.110089 is a G-5 and

August 4 2010, 9:56 AM 

Another pilot of the Stab II./JG 11, Fw. Hans Kastenhuber (10 victories) was KIA 12.May 1944 by P-47s near Strinz-Trinitatis in Bf 109G-5 WNr.110190,
GRM

 
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stephane SAGOLS
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adding some confusion...

August 4 2010, 3:45 AM 

Hello,

http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2010/07/bf109-g-6-of-hptm-gerhard-barkhorn-jg52.html

I don't know what to think...

Regards
St├ęph

 
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(Login mmoustaf)
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Falkeeins is wrong, because of all Erla G-6 were the same as G-5 (+)

August 4 2010, 4:10 AM 

The only difference was the head armour. Hence 15909 is a G-6


 
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stephane SAGOLS
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Old post regarding Barkhorn'G-6

August 4 2010, 6:44 AM 


 
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Neil
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Falke Eins blog

August 5 2010, 9:39 AM 


Thanks for the correction - if you don't mind I'll quote you on that one !

cheers

Neil

http://www.falkeeins.blogspot.com

 
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