gunship graySeptember 5 2010 at 7:41 PM
|john (Login shumyinghon)|
from IP address 220.127.116.11
hi ye all
why are USAF jets painted a dark dull gunship grey? doen;t it make the plane more visual?
they aren't all painted gunship grey nt
|September 5 2010, 8:29 PM |
|September 5 2010, 9:03 PM |
is the only one that is over all gunship other than the AC-130 that I can think of
|September 5 2010, 9:57 PM |
I know I've got a picture of a Sherpa wearing something very Gunship looking. It's from the period after Euro I was (sadly) phased out.
My hunch, however, is that it is a fresh coat of whatever the dark grey that isn't Gunship grey that whatever MAC is now called uses on its KC-10s. What a lovely sentence that was.
Edit: Found the picture, in a USAF gazette published in '89, so it was a MAC-era paint job. Scanner is dead, so no joy on posting it, I'm afraid.
|This message has been edited by Alfredo3 from IP address 18.104.22.168 on Sep 5, 2010 10:27 PM|
|September 5 2010, 10:55 PM |
All of the USAF cargo AC are AMC grey (FS26173)
C-5, C-17, C-130 and C-141 etc.
B-52 and B-1 have been overall 36118 since the early '90s.
|September 5 2010, 11:50 PM |
B-52s were briefly overall 36081 (Dark Gunship Gray) before 36118 went fleet-wide.
Gunship Gray (36118) rocks!
|September 5 2010, 10:19 PM |
Going back all the way to the late 1930s, dark grays have proven themselves to be the best colors for a variety of camouflage situations. Aircraft below 10,000 feet tend to appear dark, so that is the one place where dark grays don't work all that well. Still, most missions are flown above 10,000 to avoid small arms. Above 10,000 feet, there's enough atmosphere below you to reflect a bunch of light, so aircraft tend to silver up a bit - darker shades are harder to see. (That's why the AAF chose Neutral Gray during WWII.)
From above, lighter aircraft tend to be pretty visible against the earth or sea. I had an F-16 ride out of Eielson in the mid-90s - on takeoff we overflew six medium/light gray F/A-18s approaching for landing. They might have been more visible if they were painted neon red, but probably not by much. And while dark greens or blues can be nice if you're in close, as you start backing off, you can't distinguish the colors - gray is just as effective.
Air-to-air at altitude, everything seems pretty dark unless the cloud base and sun are just right - in nearly every other situation the darker tones are the best.
At night, dark gray offers less visibility than flat black. (However, visually, gloss black is the hardest to detect.)
For me the big question is why MORE aircraft aren't wearing Gunship Gray...
That about sums it up. Nice post!
|September 5 2010, 10:38 PM |
Having just enjoyed Ron Cline's AV-8 mini walkaround in the Jet Age, it would seem that the Marines have their stuff in a pile--although I'm sure that USMC Gunship grey isn't Gunship grey.
Heres you a good FS chart!
|September 5 2010, 11:10 PM |
I'd hurl additional compliments at you, but...
|September 5 2010, 11:42 PM |
There's no Sherpa on your list
But I certainly won't hold its absence against you, seeing as how the C-23 was a bit of an odd USAFE only duck. I'm currently wondering if my photo may pre-date Euro-I as there's an MP officer wearing the old style helmet within the photo. If so, this particular shade of Gunship Grey that isn't really Gunship Grey might not actually be on the FS register. It might be UK spec paint--a sort of reverse Phantom scenario.