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Can tamiya's 32nd Mustang be built in a OD/Neutral Gray scheme?

July 30 2011 at 10:08 PM
  (Login panamadan)
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Guys,
I build armor and this is a great looking kit, but natural metal scares me-so can it be built in OD out of the box?
Thanks, Dan

 
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Sure....you can paint whatever scheme you like -

July 30 2011, 10:13 PM 

Doesn't have to NMF. Lotsa choices out there.

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Marty Perry
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Not Exactly OD

July 30 2011, 10:14 PM 

but the 357th FG and some other units painted their aircraft in the field in dark green and grey.

He's crazy, Lou- He builds toy aeroplanes!

 
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F Crenshaw
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no

July 30 2011, 10:16 PM 

The kit itself could be painted OD (There likely will be some AM decals that feature it this way)
The good news is that you won't have to change anything in the kit - just get new markings.

But the kit supplied markings are only for NMF (or mostly NMF) birds.


Frank





 
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I think you can do the prototype D model , don't know

July 30 2011, 10:25 PM 

if you would have to tweak the kit however. Just the nat'l insignia on the prototype IIRC


    
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Well, not really.

July 30 2011, 10:30 PM 

The "prototype D" was a B/C airframe with the D-type canopy and decking. (Different wing, front-end paneling, etc.)

I've read that the first six production Ds were actually razorbacks, but have never found a photo of one to confirm.



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Ahhh....thank you, which leads me to another question:

July 30 2011, 10:37 PM 

Why was the crank angle of the leading edge at the wingroot changed on the D. Aerodynamics to get more wing area? Landing gear changes? TIA, Pat D

 
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MichiganPete
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Landing gear geometry changes

July 30 2011, 10:42 PM 

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Christian A.
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Interestingly...

July 30 2011, 10:59 PM 

...the old Revell Smithsonian edition is perfect to build 43-12102 (the bubble canopy prototype) since it has the P-51B wing with a P-51D fuselage (a LOT of work still needs to be done).
There are two cockpit photos of one of the two XP-51D's but nothing else.

Christian A.

 
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I've considered doing exactly that...

July 30 2011, 11:15 PM 

...with that Revell 1/32 "P-51D" kit. Another huge problem with it is that it began life as the "Miss America" racer with a goofy, "chopped" canopy profile, and Revell never fixed this, so it still has the racer canopy. At one time Squadron had a 1/32 vac canopy for the Hasegawa kit, and I bought one, but can't find it at the moment. sad.gif

My other option for that kit is to put a scratchbuilt 1/24 cockpit in it, and a Corvair or small-block Chevy V8 engine in it, build it as a 2/3 scale homebuilt replica, and put in on my model car shelf with the other 1/24-1/25 stuff. wink.gif




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Joe Hegedus
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That's a neat idea

July 31 2011, 8:14 AM 

The 1/24 2/3 scale homebuilt would make an interesting project - and minor outline errors wouldn't matter so much!

 
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(Login Frank_C)
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there are plenty of painted mustangs - but as Marty said

July 30 2011, 10:39 PM 

they were painted in the field by the Groups. They arrived in NMF and were painted Green over grey (and not always OD green)

Clarence Anderson's OLD CROW was painted like this (and certainly Yeagers bird as well)

But none of those markings are in the box - he will have to get AM markings or something.

 
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I love Old Crow!

July 31 2011, 9:11 AM 

And just the paint scheme!
Dan

 
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John Krukowski
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Nice-ish photo of it...

July 31 2011, 9:53 AM 

Maj. Anderson's "Old Crow"...gotta love those whitewall tires!
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And Capt. Yeager's P-51 as mentioned earlier...
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Mmmm-Old Crow....

July 31 2011, 10:53 PM 

Thanks Buddy!
Dan

 
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Oh, did you mean THIS O/C?

July 31 2011, 11:43 PM 

[linked image]
"Mmmmm"...

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That's it!

August 1 2011, 9:54 AM 

The only problem is that the bottle is full!
Dan

 
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John Krukowski
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Not'nymore! :)

August 1 2011, 6:44 PM 

I took that picture for anyone who still thinks the name "Old Crow" had anything to do with birds, flight, etc...it was named after the whiskey, according to Bud Anderson himself.

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Too true!

August 1 2011, 6:51 PM 

I read his book and then decided to try the whisky-and never have looked back!
Dan

 
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Back? or up?

August 1 2011, 7:09 PM 

These days, Old Crow is usually found on the very first shelf, just above the floor!

Good stuff, my father-in law had some laying around the house one holiday until us son-in-laws got into it, been a fan ever since.

BTW here's my Hawk version from a hundred years ago:
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Up I think!

August 2 2011, 12:53 PM 

John,
Great looking "Old Crow" that you have there-it might be a good option for the new Tamiya kit.
Dan

 
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Marty Perry
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Bud Told A Story

July 31 2011, 1:23 PM 

when he came here to give a talk on his career. He had flown over some snow covered mountains in his camouflaged Mustang and noticed how starkly the other painted aitcraft in his squadron stood out against the sylvan backdrop, and made an offhand remark to his crew chief about it after the mission. The next day he went out to his aircraft and was surprised to see it in bright, shiny NMF. His crew had stayed up all night scrubbing off every speck of paint!

He's crazy, Lou- He builds toy aeroplanes!

 
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Re: Bud Told A Story

July 31 2011, 5:01 PM 

I used to have a VHS tape that had that story on it. He also said they used aviation fuel to remove the paint. You could tell he was choked up when he told the story.

 
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Yes

July 31 2011, 1:06 PM 

4th FG had at least one OD/NG P-51D. Look in Gary Fry's Debden Eagles. (At least, I think that's where I saw it.)

 
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Non-NMF P-51Ds

July 30 2011, 10:42 PM 

You have several options.

*Silver-painted postwar or Korean war example. (Floquil Old Silver or Pewter looks fabulous and is VERY easy to apply.)

*Dark Green/Gray 357FG--many to choose from.

*Howard "Deacon" Hively's OD/NG of 4FG.

*RAF camo paint.

*Israeli camo.

*Domincan AF camo of the '70s-'80s.

*Civilian warbird or racer.

There are probably others I'm not thinking of at the moment.




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We will march on a road of bones. --Hunter S. Thompson.

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(Login jinxx1)
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Or something different like Latin American P-51s

July 30 2011, 11:34 PM 


 
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(Login panamadan)
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Thanks much guys!

July 31 2011, 9:08 AM 

I wasn't sure if the kit would have to be modified or backdated to be painted OD. Thanks for the post-war ideas as that wasn't on my radar screen! Those schemes seem to be the most attractive to me!
Hope to see some Mustang builds here on hyperscale!
Dan

 
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Eagle- Editions Has Some of the 357th FG Already

July 31 2011, 10:18 AM 

They still list their 3 sheets as available. On these are included "Frenesi", "Ol'Flack Joe", "Missouri Armada", and "Passion Wagon", under the sheet titles of "To War With the Yoxford Boys" (357th Fighter Group,8th Air Force).

As already said, they were field painted, colors are generally considered British Dark Green over Med. Sea Grey.

Link to E-E's site is below

http://www.eagle-editions.com/mustangs.htm

HTH, Dwayne

 
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David Hannant
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RAF P-51D

July 31 2011, 12:11 PM 

If you don't mind a non USAAF machine Xtradecal already have available this decahttp://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X32043 which includes three camouflaged aircraft, one each RAF, RAAF and RCAF as well as three RAF silver aircraft.
Contents:
North American P-51D Mustang Mk.IV (6) KH655 QV-P 19 Sqn RAF Peterhead; KM680 Y2-B 442 (RCAF) Sqn PO A.J.Mallandine 'Edmonton Special'RAF Hunsdon May; KH755 CV-W 3(RAAF) Sqn 'Anita' Italy; All OD/Dk Grey/Med Grey. KH765 HG-R 154 Sqn Alex Forsyth RAF Hunsdon; KM138 AK-Y 213 Sqn Italy; KM232 JAS Wg.Cdr J.A.Storrer Wing Ldr RAF Hunsdon. All Aluminium. All 1945.
Ready for the new Tamiya kit.


    
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Yes...just not with the markings supplied in the kit

August 1 2011, 2:11 AM 

There were plenty of P-51D's that were painted a shade of green or olive drab over grey. Several groups, right after D-Day did so preparing for a move to the continent if necessary. For example the 357th Fighter Group. Just wait a few days and there will be plenty of after market decals available. Right now many are sold out. And new ones will be released especially designed for the Tamiya kit. So...paint away. The only question involved is exactly what shade of green to use...an RAF green shade, Olive Drab, or a US army green. Lots of debate and questions about just what shades were used...probably all three in all honesty. They just used what was handy at the moment.

Chuck

 
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