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How about this for a 1/32 Boeing-Stearman or NAF N3N?

April 7 2012 at 9:08 PM
Joe McDonald  (Login Northwest48)
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I now realize that nobody makes a 1/32 kit for a Boeing-Stearman or NAF N3N trainer. But, what about modifying (extensively modifying I admit) a 1/32 Hasegawa F4B-4? It's out of production, but the kit can still be found on the internet.

I'd have to modify the upper wing, add a second cockpit and trim down the rear fuselage. For the N3N, the engine cowl could be removed. The vertical stabilizer would also have to be reshaped. But, maybe just maybe it could be done.

I think I really need to do an NAF N3N since that's the type of plane that was used as a trainer at NAS Pasco during the war.

Possible, or just a pipe dream?

 
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(Login Charles_Metz)
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The trainer was approximately 5 feet larger in both length and wingspan, Joe

April 7 2012, 9:44 PM 

For example, see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Aircraft_Factory_N3N_Canary

and:

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=208

Those 5 feet correspond to approximately 2 inches in 1/32 scale, of course.

Charles Metz

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Michael
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Years ago the old FBO at Santa Paula CA...

April 7 2012, 10:13 PM 

Did just the opposite. Made a P-12 F4B-4 (never saw it finished so I don't know what they decided, I pushed for a Marine F4B-4 but the last time I looked at it...it was looking pretty darn good for what they started with!

 
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(Login el-rancho-decomposo)
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Yes, imagine my surprise seeing an F4B-3 under construction....

April 8 2012, 10:18 AM 

...at Santa Paula by Jim Dewey, a local legend.

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Joe McDonald
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You're right Charlie - It won't be easy, but I can't figure an alternative

April 7 2012, 10:19 PM 

The construction of the fuselage I think was also different. Maybe fabric on the N3N and maybe metal on the F4?

 
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(Login Charles_Metz)
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If a kinda/sorta approximation of a PT-17/N2S/N3N in 1/32 would be acceptable, then ...

April 7 2012, 11:02 PM 

... it might be easier to build one:

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by converting the old Tomy/Swallow//Doyusha K5Y1 "Willow" kit:

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The latter seems to be be out of production now, but it's by no means a rare kit and should be easy to find on eBay -- or at HobbyLink Japan, if you're willing to wait 4-6 weeks: http://www.hlj.com/product/DYS32-AKA

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Charles Metz

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Sometimes the light's all shinin' on me;
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me
What a long, strange trip it's been.


    
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(Login ResinPrince)
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This would be a better starting point

April 7 2012, 11:44 PM 

much closer to looking like the end product from the start. Finding one might be a problem but they are out there.

Mike

 
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(Login jimmaas)
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your life would be easier

April 7 2012, 10:46 PM 

by searching around for some deal on one of those 1/32 builtup PT-17's. What you're describing is like converting an A6M Zero into a P-47.

 
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Joe McDonald
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Sorry Jim I don't get you ...builtup PT-17s?

April 7 2012, 10:55 PM 

I'll look, but can't figure what to search for.

 
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Joe McDonald
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Found "Tumblr" wooden model .....May be a possibility n/t

April 7 2012, 10:59 PM 

n/t

 
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(Login jimmaas)
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just google using

April 7 2012, 11:38 PM 

1/32 PT-17. I found one listed for $129 which would be too rich for me but maybe something less expensive can be found.

 
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(Login ResinPrince)
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IMHO you would be better off scratchbuilding

April 7 2012, 11:42 PM 

than trying to beat an F4B4 into looking like an N3N. Only similarity is both had radials and were biplanes.

Seriously, not trying to be a a wise guy here, it would be easier. You could knock out the basic shapes from some bass wood in maybe a day or two, converting the F4B4 might take three times as long if at all.

Mike

 
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Steve N
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About the only usable F4B part might be the top wing

April 8 2012, 5:50 AM 

and even that would need extensive modification to get close to the correct span. The bottom wing is much too short in span and narrow in chord for a Stearman or an N3N. And niether has a fuselage even remotely similar to the F4B in shape or size. Honestly, as the others have said, it would probably be easier in the long run to scratchbuilt. If you need a donor kit for some wings, the old Monogram F3F might prove more useful (although again you'd probably need to butcher a couple kits to get the wings long enough.

SN

 
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Joe McDonald
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OK guys - you've really really convinced me this is a bad way to go...but

April 8 2012, 1:12 PM 

Still no hope of a reasonable way to make a 1/32 Stearman?

Scratch build the whole thing?

Anyway....Have a Happy Easter

 
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